Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 6th Jan 2013 23:00 UTC
Windows "It's taken longer than expected but it has finally happened: unsigned desktop applications run on Windows RT. Ironically, a vulnerability in the Windows kernel that has existed for some time and got ported to ARM just like the rest of Windows made this possible. MSFT's artificial incompatibility does not work because Windows RT is not in any way reduced in functionality. It's a clean port, and a good one. But deep in the kernel, in a hashed and signed data section protected by UEFI's Secure Boot, lies a byte that represents the minimum signing level." Good stuff. Very good stuff.
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Seems like a lot of work
by BluenoseJake on Sun 6th Jan 2013 23:38 UTC
BluenoseJake
Member since:
2005-08-11

To get around this limitation. There are no apps, other than .Net apps, that will run on Windows RT. So I am not sure I see the point, other than to prove it can be done, which in thinking about, may be reason enough.

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RE: Seems like a lot of work
by Lorin on Sun 6th Jan 2013 23:53 in reply to "Seems like a lot of work"
Lorin Member since:
2010-04-06

There are people out there who do it because it's fun

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RE: Seems like a lot of work
by Nelson on Mon 7th Jan 2013 00:04 in reply to "Seems like a lot of work"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Windows Store apps can be in .NET, C++, or JS.

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

This affects desktop apps, not store apps. Because desktop apps are Win32 apps, they aren't compiled to run on ARM.

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ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

Windows Store apps can be in .NET, C++, or JS.


Please stop spreading this myth.

.NET and C# are not the same thing.

Microsoft is not allowing .NET applications in Windows RT. C# is a supported language but without .NET that means existing applications have to be re-written in WinRT.

It's total bullshit really and an insult to .NET developers. Everything is expected to be re-written except Microsoft's software that gets access to the secret .NET/Win32 stash.

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RE: Seems like a lot of work
by dsmogor on Mon 7th Jan 2013 12:23 in reply to "Seems like a lot of work"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

I believe that good OSS stuff like 7zip or GIMP will now eventually get ported.

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RE: Seems like a lot of work
by bassbeast on Mon 7th Jan 2013 19:44 in reply to "Seems like a lot of work"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

Heck its even more pointless as Surface is a megabomb and all the other OEMs have "delayed" (read canceled) their WOA products so pretty much the only thing which this could ever be used on is the Surface which is frankly priced so stupidly its gonna just rot in the MSFT stores.

Last hard data I saw had fewer than 1 million sold and indicators so bad that MSFT called their manufacturer and cut their order in half just to keep from ending up with a warehouse full of the things.

Now one could pin their hopes on MSFT unloading all those Surface units on Woot!, like HP did with the Touchpad, but if you look at the past history of the company and what has been done to cover Ballmer's BS, such as counting every single Vista downgrade as a Vista sale to keep it from being listed as the megaflop it was? Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if he had the Surface units buried in a landfill in NM rather than admit its a complete failure.

Kinda sad really, the Tegra 3 is a nice chip and if you had an OS like Android better optimized to the hardware and with better app selection it would probably make a nice $200 tablet. But all the reports I've seen indicate the appstore is a broken mess, the apps that they DO have are money ripping knock offs like the "Steam" app that merely stick icons of your Steam games on the screen for you to look at or the dozen FB ripoffs that just call FB through the browser and mine all your data.

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