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RE[2]: The enemy of my enemy is...
by Vanders on Fri 11th Jan 2013 22:01
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Apple and safari are not even close to being competitors of any influence to windows or IE.
I believe his point is that Apple took KHTML and created the (far more portable) WebKit, which in turn has become the basis of Chrome and a whole bunch of other Open Source web browsers. Without that work KHTML would likely have remained firmly wedded to KDE, and we'd be looking at Firefox and a few larger projects struggling along trying to keep their ports of Gecko up to date.
RE[3]: The enemy of my enemy is...
by mrstep on Sat 12th Jan 2013 22:53
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Not to mention that the number of users on WebKit certainly DO compete hugely with IE if you include mobile & tablet numbers, and Apple with iOS (and Chrome/Android, which you'll have to forgive me for calling an sort of Safari/iOS knockoffs
) crushed Microsoft like a grape in the mobile space, which is a LOT of users.
Samsung announcing they're not going to bother trying to do Windows RT tablets in the US market is not a sign of strength for Microsoft at this time no matter how much people want to pretend Apple didn't hugely influence the current market.
RE[2]: The enemy of my enemy is...
by M.Onty on Sun 13th Jan 2013 18:52
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As for open standards, I've said it before and I'll say it again, Apple would destroy them if they could. Decision to use open source rendering engine was driven by pure pragmatic reasons, namely Apple cannot sustain heavy software development. They are aware of this therefore they grab whatever they can and modify it. Open source has benefited far less from Apple, compared with how much has apple benefited from open source!!
What's wrong with pragmatic? I far prefer a pragmatist to a ideologue. And what's wrong with Apple benefiting more than 'open source' (as if it were one coherent community), so long as the wider open source community benefits to some degree too.
Its called enlightened self interest, and its a damned good principle to run a company division on, not just for the division and the company, but for the industry and the customers too.
RE[2]: The enemy of my enemy is...
by zima on Fri 18th Jan 2013 14:29
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You my friend seem to be living in the lala land. Apple and safari are not even close to being competitors of any influence to windows or IE. Had you said (in terms of servers) linux and among browsers firefox I might have subscribed to what you are posting.
Chrome is ahead of Firefox. And Chrome is also Webkit, giving large amount of influence to what Apple is doing with Safari.
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-200807-201301





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You my friend seem to be living in the lala land. Apple and safari are not even close to being competitors of any influence to windows or IE. Had you said (in terms of servers) linux and among browsers firefox I might have subscribed to what you are posting. As for open standards, I've said it before and I'll say it again, Apple would destroy them if they could. Decision to use open source rendering engine was driven by pure pragmatic reasons, namely Apple cannot sustain heavy software development. They are aware of this therefore they grab whatever they can and modify it. Open source has benefited far less from Apple, compared with how much has apple benefited from open source!!