Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 25th Jan 2013 14:20 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Buried deep within Nokia's press release about its financial results, there's a line that pretty much signals the end of one of the most popular and successful mobile operating systems in history. With Nokia retiring its use, Symbian is no more.
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Oh well.
by moondevil on Fri 25th Jan 2013 14:28 UTC
moondevil
Member since:
2005-07-08

Actually the last UI version was quite pleasant to use.

Although Symbian C++ was a braindead dialect of C++, coupled with a Frankenstein toolchain, Nokia was getting its act together with PIPS and Qt.

But it was too late to attract developers and the burning platform memo was the death sentence.

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RE: Oh well.
by zima on Fri 25th Jan 2013 14:43 in reply to "Oh well."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Actually the last UI version was quite pleasant to use. [...] Nokia was getting its act together

Perhaps Thom could grab some inexpensive recent handset running the last version, Nokia Belle feature pack 2, and do a goodbye review?

(right after that long overdue RISC OS review? ;p )

Edited 2013-01-25 14:44 UTC

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RE[2]: Oh well.
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 25th Jan 2013 14:44 in reply to "RE: Oh well."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Just checked the N8, and it's still €100 used. That's a little too much for me.

Also, working on a Palm Pre 2/webOS review at the moment ;) .

Edited 2013-01-25 14:56 UTC

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RE[2]: Oh well.
by winter skies on Fri 25th Jan 2013 14:57 in reply to "RE: Oh well."
winter skies Member since:
2009-08-21

Latest incarnations of Symbian are really nice to use indeed, well-designed Qt apps are a pleasure to use and the UI is quite consistent if you exclude some third-party oddballs. I use an 808 as my primary phone and I'm enjoying it very much, its camera being a notable plus.
So BB10 remains the only non-discontinued mobile OS to offer true multitasking accessible through a non-broken UI.
I still hope someone can make something out of the available source code - so that we may see a new effort rise from the ashes of Nokia's past. Seeing a realtime microkernel based OS disappearing like this is too sad.

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RE: Oh well.
by przemo_li on Fri 25th Jan 2013 19:36 in reply to "Oh well."
przemo_li Member since:
2010-06-01

Before "Burning Memo"

Nakia had BIGGEST APP STORE. Even Apple app store was smaller.


First CHECK data, than make opinions.

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RE[2]: Oh well.
by cdude on Fri 25th Jan 2013 20:07 in reply to "RE: Oh well."
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

In quantity and quality. The many years Symbian was de facto THE mobile OS made it so. Why Nokia just throw all that away without any migration-path is beyond illogical. Check bill, Nokia. 3% market share 2 years later. Ups?

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RE: Oh well.
by bassbeast on Mon 28th Jan 2013 18:35 in reply to "Oh well."
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

The "burning platform memo" was NOT what killed Symbian mismanagement at Nokia for too many years is what killed Symbian.

Everybody likes to blame Elop for Nokia when if you look at where the company was when he was brought on board it was a mess, just a giant mangled mess. They had not one, not two, but THREE different OSes NONE of which was in ANY shape to compete with iOS and Android, you had Symbian, you had the MeeGo which had serious memory leaks and networking issues, and then you had the Java based thing.

So if you want to know why Symbian never really kept up just look at the board of Nokia, they let everything go off the rails and by the time they got off their behind and made a call the boat was already sinking. All Elop could do is throw a Hail Mary pass and hope it would be a hit because there wasn't a plan B, Neither Symbian or MeeGo had a prayer against iOS.

Man...who would have thought when Jobs came back in 97 and had to make a deal with Gates just to keep the developers from bailing that he would end up making Apple the 800 pound gorilla that even MSFT fears and which can knock out old guard like Nokia without even breaking a sweat.

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RE[2]: Oh well.
by cdude on Mon 28th Jan 2013 19:06 in reply to "RE: Oh well."
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

They had not one, not two, but THREE different OSes


You mean like Samsung has Android, Bada and Tizen?

MeeGo which had serious memory leaks and networking issues


It can't become more bullshit then that. Come on. Many N9 owners will call you a troll on that. Be at least so kind to give a source. You can not? Aha.

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