Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 7th Feb 2013 20:57 UTC
Features, Office "The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 4.0, the free office suite the community has been dreaming of since 2001. LibreOffice 4.0 is the first release that reflects the objectives set by the community at the time of the announcement, in September 2010: a cleaner and leaner code base, an improved set of features, better interoperability, and a more diverse and inclusive ecosystem."
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Linux version is very poorly packaged
by rklrkl on Thu 7th Feb 2013 22:26 UTC
rklrkl
Member since:
2005-07-06

Yes, I know, you're going to scream "use your standard repos to install LibreOffice", but I run CentOS 6 at home and work and the chances of it releasing LO 4 any time soon are pretty remote.

Has anyone actually looked at how LibreOffice is "officially" packaged on the libreoffice.org site for Linux? It's terrible! Over 50 RPMs bundled across up to 3 .tar.gz downloads with apparently non-US users having to download the en-US version, delete all the en-US RPMs, delete the Spanish and French dictionary RPMs, then download two other packages (help and language packs) for their own language.

It gets worse - the morons at LibreOffice have different install trees for even minor point releases (e.g. /opt/openoffice3.5 vs. /opt/openoffice3.6) and then even more stupidly hard-code the version number into the package name (e.g. libreoffice3.6, libreoffice4.0 etc) which is 100% wrong and means you have to manually uninstall the old RPMs (rpm -e them) before installing the updated version - arrgh!

Yes, I know the version thing lets you install 2 versions at once, but who other than developers will *ever* do that? What's annoying is that the devs that might need to do that have their *own* Lodev RPMs with the dual-install capability. And switching versions isn't hard - remove old RPMs, install new ones or vice versa. No need for both to be installed at once for a typical user.

Worst...RPM...packaging...ever...

Edited 2013-02-07 22:29 UTC

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j-kidd Member since:
2005-07-06

Switch to Gentoo. I have libreoffice-4.0.0.2 installed since Jan 24th ;)

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Switch to Gentoo. I have libreoffice-4.0.0.2 installed since Jan 24th ;)

Wow, you compiled it that fast? Damn! ;)

Edited 2013-02-08 07:38 UTC

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

You're like, missing the entire point why somebody would run CentOS and not Gentoo... :p

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tuaris Member since:
2007-08-05

Look at the Windows package, a single MSI with everything you need to install and run the program (minus Java of course). Double click, run, install. Done.

Blame "The Unix Way" mentality for the poor packaging/distribution on Linux.

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ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

So all those setup.exe "wizards" and manual updates on Windows are the wave of the future, and I should blame the ubiquitous Linux repos and their single-click installs and automatic updates instead? Hmmm...

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gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

So, a bad package by a 3'rd party (that also packages the MSI Windows package you use) points a finger at all packages in all Linux distributions.

There's a subtle difference between being a troll and being plain stupid; you're fairly close to crossing the line....

- Gilboa

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hussam Member since:
2006-08-17

Look at the Windows package, a single MSI with everything you need to install and run the program (minus Java of course). Double click, run, install. Done.

Blame "The Unix Way" mentality for the poor packaging/distribution on Linux.


That's not correct. Windows packaging is terrible. No tracking of shared dependencies. Poor tracking of installed files. Installing application B can overwrite files installed by Application A.
No easy upgrade paths unless programmed by the packager...
Need I go on?
On linux, a package can be installed with a single command that my grandma can type. easily upgradable packages, tracking of shared dependencies, excellent tracking of installed files. Package managers also warn and/or block two packages from installing the same file in the same location.

The main reason why I dropped windows in 2004 IS the software installation/packaging hell.

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tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

That's just because RPM is a piece of shit. Download the deb-packages archive, extract it, run "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" in the directory, and you're done.

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tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

Or people could try to actually read the installation instructions, I know that would be too weird and easy. I have a Scientific Linux machine, and I have had zero issues installing and upgrading LibreOffice, and I'm using multiple language packs.

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gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

http://www.osnews.com/thread?552026

(Saves me the need to write things twice)

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marcp Member since:
2007-11-23

"Worst...RPM...packaging...ever..."


RPM....is....the...worst....packaging...[system]...ever....

Edited 2013-02-08 12:40 UTC

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