Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Feb 2013 21:31 UTC
Apple Well paint me red and call me a girl scout. "In its latest push to get porn off your computer, Apple now deletes all iCloud emails that contain the phrase 'barely legal teens'. It doesn't send the messages to spam, or flag them, it just straight up deletes them, and there's nothing you can do about it." So, at least we can finally put that silly myth to rest that Apple respects users' privacy. They scan your emails, including attachments, just like everyone else.
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Talk about a strawman
by leos on Tue 26th Feb 2013 22:19 UTC
leos
Member since:
2005-09-21

So, at least we can finally put that silly myth to rest that Apple respects users' privacy. They scan your emails, including attachments, just like everyone else.


Way to completely miss the point Thom. The article you linked to talks about privacy in the context of using your private information for the purposes of advertising.
Last I checked I don't get targeted ads on the side of my iCloud email, but I do on Gmail.

Filtering "barely legal teens" is pretty laughable and the wrong approach, but it has nothing to do with privacy.

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RE: Talk about a strawman
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 26th Feb 2013 22:43 in reply to "Talk about a strawman"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Of course it has to do with privacy. Apple fans' logic never ceases to amaze me.

Google has automated bots scanning your emails for targeted ads so you don't see irrelevant crap: PRIVACY ISSUE.

Apple has automated bots reading your emails to delete what it believes does not adhere to US puritanical views: NOPE, NOT A PRIVACY ISSUE YOU GUYS.

The world is crazy.

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RE[2]: Talk about a strawman
by boscorillium on Tue 26th Feb 2013 22:51 in reply to "RE: Talk about a strawman"
boscorillium Member since:
2013-02-26

Agreed, it seems like in both cases you can easily argue there is a privacy issue. Which one bothers you more is of course dependant on what camp you are in.

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v RE[2]: Talk about a strawman
by leos on Wed 27th Feb 2013 06:10 in reply to "RE: Talk about a strawman"
RE[2]: Talk about a strawman
by siraf72 on Wed 27th Feb 2013 18:04 in reply to "RE: Talk about a strawman"
siraf72 Member since:
2006-02-22

Of course it has to do with privacy. Apple fans' logic never ceases to amaze me.

Google has automated bots scanning your emails for targeted ads so you don't see irrelevant crap: PRIVACY ISSUE.

Apple has automated bots reading your emails to delete what it believes does not adhere to US puritanical views: NOPE, NOT A PRIVACY ISSUE YOU GUYS.

The world is crazy.


Your logic is consistent, no doubt. From a purely privacy perspective you are right. But at a practical level there is a world of difference. I don't buy the "slippery slope" argument in this case when it comes to privacy. Google's history about user privacy is still far more suspect (time and time again). Apple's goal here seems pretty clear. I have no problem with their goal in this instance.

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