Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 5th Apr 2013 10:47 UTC
Games More and more evidence is pointing towards the next Xbox requiring an always-on internet connection in order to play any games - i.e., once you lose your connection, you can't play any game at all. Three minutes after losing your connection, "your" game will suspend itself and stop playing. Microsoft's Adam Orth took to Twitter to defend this anti-consumer practice, but he did so in the most ungraceful of ways.
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RE[2]: Comment by Chris_G
by lucas_maximus on Fri 5th Apr 2013 14:11 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Chris_G"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

How long will a person be able to play video games on the next version of the Xbox? How long will Microsoft keep the servers for it running? Five years? Ten years? All websites eventually go down.


Considering you can still go to windows update and update a fresh windows 98 installation ... I think for a while yet.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Tell that to my sad Plays for sure WMA files... They cry out for verification and validation, but hear only the stupid silence of Microsoft's fickle fascination with DRM formats.

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RE[3]: Comment by Chris_G
by toast88 on Fri 5th Apr 2013 17:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Chris_G"
toast88 Member since:
2009-09-23

Considering you can still go to windows update and update a fresh windows 98 installation ... I think for a while yet.


Except that you can't. The current version of Windows Update requires Internet Explorer 7.0 or higher.

I recently installed Windows 98 on an old Compaq Notebook 100, Windows Update did NOT work (at least not with the version of Internet Explorer shipped with Windows 98SE which is 5.5).

Installing Internet Explorer 6.0 isn't possible either as the servers for the online installer do not work anymore.

I think I later also tried with an offline installer version of IE6 and it didn't work either.

So, no, you can't really update Windows 98 anymore through Windows Update.

Adrian

Edited 2013-04-05 17:27 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by Chris_G
by MOS6510 on Sat 6th Apr 2013 14:22 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Chris_G"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Same for NT 4.0. It was still possible not too long ago, but now the Windows Update site keeps looping and you can't download a single update.

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RE[4]: Comment by Chris_G
by lucas_maximus on Sat 6th Apr 2013 15:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Chris_G"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Until a few years ago you still could. I think after 16 years it isn't too much of a problem.

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RE[3]: Comment by Chris_G
by henderson101 on Mon 8th Apr 2013 14:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Chris_G"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

I own a Dreamcast. None of the online services that once existed still work, outside of a few fan run servers. So basically, any of the games with online play are severely limited now. I have games on the XBOX 360 that have had their servers close (very early ones, usually sports based.) So, essentially again, the online play is gone. Imagine all of the games required a server to play at all - this is the issue. I don't care if Microsoft still provides Windows 98 updates or not, they won't keep a bunch of console servers running indefinitely, no matter how much they promise to. Nor will they provide Windows 98 downloads for much longer.

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