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RE: Comment by kurkosdr
by Neolander on Thu 25th Apr 2013 17:20 UTC in reply to "Comment by kurkosdr"
Neolander
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2010-03-08

+1 from a linuxero who thinks that over-reliance on the repository system is one of the main issues of the Linux world.

In my dream OS, the repository system would only serve to store a collection of well-trusted, "Editor's pick" software in a single centralized place. Packages would be perfectly standalone, relying only on system libraries, and of course secure: nothing like Windows installers, demanding to run arbitrary code with admin privilege just to copy a bunch of files to a given place on disk.

Mac OS X actually got pretty close to that with the bundle system. That's one of the things which I used to like about that OS, before Gatekeeper came around in 10.8, announcing the start of a gradual deprecation of decentralized software distribution.

Edited 2013-04-25 17:26 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by kurkosdr
by moondevil on Thu 25th Apr 2013 19:47 in reply to "RE: Comment by kurkosdr"
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You mean like it used to be in MS-DOS, Amiga and Atari days? ;)

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RE[3]: Comment by kurkosdr
by Neolander on Thu 25th Apr 2013 20:18 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kurkosdr"
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2010-03-08

Might be, I haven't used an MS-DOS computer for a long time now and have never used the other two. Besides, decentralized software distribution was the only choice at the time where the infrastructure for centralized distribution wasn't in place.

A difference, though, is that I'm not hostile to centralized software distribution per se. It's normal for an OS vendor to want to put what he think is quality third-party software on display, and to provide a set of trusted mirrors for these. What I'm against is the scenario where centralized software distribution becomes the only way to get software on a given platform.

First because it ruins the purpose of having a centralized store at all, since the worst crap ends up getting in, while some gems are left out forever for e.g. licensing reasons. Second because it puts a very large amount of power in the hand of the OS vendor, which no one should feel confortable with.

Edited 2013-04-25 20:20 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by kurkosdr
by Delgarde on Fri 26th Apr 2013 02:15 in reply to "RE: Comment by kurkosdr"
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

+1 from a linuxero who thinks that over-reliance on the repository system is one of the main issues of the Linux world.


This isn't really a problem with the repo system though... it's a problem with trying to run 3rd-party software that hasn't been tested/certified on the new version of the OS you're running.

Pretty much any big commercial software provider would be laughing at you if you ask for help running their applications on an unsupported OS. At best, they'll tell you to wait until they've certified it themselves, or they'll charge you big money for doing the certification ahead of schedule. Just try dealing with Oracle on something like this...

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