Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 25th Apr 2013 14:56 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ubuntu 13.04 has been released, with the Linux 3.8.8 kernel, a faster and less resource hungry Unity desktop, LibreOffice 4.0, and much more. Ubuntu users will know where to get it, and you're looking for a new installation, have fun. Also fun: UbuntuKylin.
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RE: Wow, one downvote already
by Alfman on Fri 26th Apr 2013 14:42 UTC in reply to "Wow, one downvote already"
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"So, there you have Linux Desktop, killing a significant part of it's 'ecosystem' by making it hard to impossible for proprietary ISVs to ship software on Ubuntu."

"hard to impossible"? Seriously?? And what evidence do you have of that? This is isn't the ipad, it's ubuntu. You can install outside software by downloading the appropriate tarball from a webpage, extracting it, and then running it. Maybe the installation process could be improved for software outside the repo, but face it, it's the same as windows. Heck if you have wine installed you can even run a ton of compatible *windows* software too.

"But hey, the people in the key positions in Linux Desktop who made the decision to have an unstable API and ABI weren't planning to use that proprietary software anyway, so it 'works for them'."

None of this affects usespace apps, which is most often what the "walled garden" refers to.

However even if you wanted to apply it to the kernel, the linux kernel is still more open than windows. Not only is windows source closed, but MS requires developers to buy code certificates to install their own drivers. That policy basically killed the open source scene in windows kernel development since the certificates cannot be shared and all individual would-be contributors need to buy their own certificates to build kernel modules for their own machines.

You are completely exaggerating the difficulty of running proprietary software on linux. If anything, proprietary software doesn't do well on linux because linux users are wary of closed software, not because there's anything preventing users from installing it.

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