Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th May 2013 12:59 UTC
Opera Software "Countless hours of hard work, hectoliters of coffee, tons of improvements, two version numbers skipped, and here it is: the all-new Opera for desktop is now out as an Opera Next version, Opera's channel for what used to be called beta. Made from scratch, this version is available for Windows and Mac and brings a new, elegant design and a bunch of new features that will make your browsing experience sleeker and easier than ever." The first version using something called 'Chromium's engine' - I guess they can't call it WebKit anymore, but they can't call it Blink yet either. It's looking great, but the bookmark functionality seems to not have been implemented yet in this preview
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Unsurprising, but still depressing
by Dave_K on Wed 29th May 2013 13:04 UTC
Dave_K
Member since:
2005-11-16

It looks like the "doom mongers" were right about Opera's new direction. It used to be the most highly customisable "power user" browser around, with a lot of unique features to set it apart. Now it's becoming a stripped down mobile browser that just happens to have a desktop version. I see no indication that this is going to change between preview and full release.

I guess that explains why so many of Opera's advanced features haven't been updated (or even bug fixed) in recent versions. There wasn't much point in improving them when they were going to be removed from the browser completely.

Opera was the one browser I could tweak and customise to meet my preferences near perfectly. There's still nothing on the market on a par with classic Opera for management of multiple tabs, and along with features like the Notes panel, that often made Opera a significantly superior research tool. For me, any other browser I switch to will be a downgrade.

Obviously its desktop niche was too small and they're trying a different direction, but as someone who's used Opera since version 2 I'm really going to miss the browser.

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PresentIt Member since:
2010-02-10

Now it's becoming a stripped down mobile browser that just happens to have a desktop version. I see no indication that this is going to change between preview and full release.

You are missing the point. They rewrite the UI from scratch. This is just the first step. They're not going to stop adding features.

Opera 15 is the foundation. It isn't becoming stripped down. It is stripped down now because it's physically impossible to add tons of features in such a short amount of time. But it will be less stripped down as it matures.

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Dave_K Member since:
2005-11-16

You are missing the point. They rewrite the UI from scratch. This is just the first step. They're not going to stop adding features.


I'm sure they're going to add to it, just like Microsoft will be adding extra features to Modern UI, but that doesn't mean that all the classic UI features and customisability will ever be reimplemented.

I'd be less worried if some of Opera's niche features hadn't been broken/abandoned even before this rewrite. To me it seems to be following a trend where Opera are copying the simplicity of Chrome, rather than providing a flexible browser for users who value a lot of advanced features.

The depressing thing is that Opera staff who've commented don't even seem to get what people are complaining about...

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