Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Jul 2013 23:07 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones "Mozilla today announced that the regional launches of Firefox OS smartphones will begin soon. Deutsche Telekom and Telefonica will release the first Firefox OS devices, the ALCATEL ONE TOUCH Fire and the ZTE Open, soon. Individual partners will announce specifics about launches in each market soon." Lots of soons in there.
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I wonder...
by UltraZelda64 on Tue 2nd Jul 2013 06:09 UTC
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2006-12-05

Android, Firefox OS, Ubuntu Touch... I wonder how all of these will compare, and how the competition between them will work out. Actually, I would like to see them all survive (obviously Android's success is pretty much guaranteed by this point); you can never have too many alternatives for when one of them starts playing nasty. But when you add the fully proprietary competition (iOS and Windows Phone), I seriously can't imagine all five contenders surviving and thriving for long.

Edited 2013-07-02 06:10 UTC

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RE: I wonder...
by moondevil on Tue 2nd Jul 2013 08:29 in reply to "I wonder..."
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2005-07-08

Personally, I care only for devices that offer native applications, as such I don't have big expectations for browser only OSs.

All mobile OS already offer mobile browsers, so if you want me to switch OS, the user experience has to be worthwhile.

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RE[2]: I wonder...
by Nelson on Tue 2nd Jul 2013 11:26 in reply to "RE: I wonder..."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Personally, I care only for devices that offer native applications, as such I don't have big expectations for browser only OSs.

All mobile OS already offer mobile browsers, so if you want me to switch OS, the user experience has to be worthwhile.


I agree, and from what I've seen in the Firefox OS videos it is considerably laggy on the devices they're launching.

It seems counter intuitive to me to on one hand want low power utilization, low hardware requirements and great performance but then turn around and write large OS components in javascript.

I'm sure someone will post some microbenchmark or link to a useless webGL tech demo to try to argue against this, but it doesn't change the core point that it is just a less effective environment to develop in.

There's no supporting tooling, no competent debugger, no cohesive framework. Its a mish mash of components which doesn't really add up to a meaningful experience for the developer.

That said, I don't see why this couldn't immediately take off. Its a shitty, but less shitty low end Android distribution with Mozilla's science experiment crammed in.

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RE[2]: I wonder...
by twitterfire on Tue 2nd Jul 2013 13:07 in reply to "RE: I wonder..."
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2008-09-11

Not only I think that browser OSs do suck from a performance point of view, but I think that JS/HTML based interfaces and programming like in Tizen, Metro sucks equally.

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RE[2]: I wonder...
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 3rd Jul 2013 01:54 in reply to "RE: I wonder..."
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2006-12-05

Well if the entire top layer of the OS is basically web-based, then by extension wouldn't that make all "native" applications web-based as well? If it flops it flops, but who knows how it will turn out. I've obviously never used it so I don't know what it is like. As much as I'm against Ubuntu on the desktop (and I have been for years), I think Ubuntu Touch has the best chance of competing with Android (both technically and on the market). Note that I'm leaving iOS and Windows Phone out here though (I personally don't want to go all-closed again).

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RE[2]: I wonder...
by pooo on Wed 3rd Jul 2013 07:24 in reply to "RE: I wonder..."
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2006-04-22

Which browser based mobile OS's have you tried? Other than webOS since when that was developed it was actually quite smooth and fast for that generation except compared to iOS. I'm wondering why the hate for js/html unless it is just a theoretical dislike?

Edited 2013-07-03 07:24 UTC

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RE: I wonder...
by drcouzelis on Tue 2nd Jul 2013 13:11 in reply to "I wonder..."
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2010-01-11

Ooh! Ooh! Don't forget SailfishOS!

It runs native applications (potential to be fast), it can run Android applications (potential to have many launch day applications), it uses Qt (well known API in general), it can be developed for on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux, and comes "no jailbreaking required". ;)

...yes, I'm a Maemo fanboy... ;) ;)

Anyway, Jolla hasn't put a phone on sale yet, but the fact that they've created one, shown it to people, and released the development kit is a good sign.

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RE[2]: I wonder...
by Wafflez on Tue 2nd Jul 2013 17:17 in reply to "RE: I wonder..."
Wafflez Member since:
2011-06-26

And if this would get released with hardware keyboard...

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