Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 16th Jul 2013 22:42 UTC
Legal "A diverse coalition of 19 groups announced today a lawsuit against the United States government for 'an illegal and unconstitutional program of dragnet electronic surveillance', known as the Associational Tracking Program, which collects all telephone records handled by Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint in the US. The group, represented by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, aims to compel the government to inventory and disclose the records in its possession, to destroy them, and to immediately end the surveillance program."
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RE[3]: Comment by graffias79
by flypig on Wed 17th Jul 2013 19:58 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by graffias79"
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Well, first you're confusing agencies. The FBI is not the NSA. And the more pertaining act to this situation is not the so-called PATRIOT Act, but FISA (The American Government loves acronyms at all levels, it seems).

I'm happy to take your word for it, as I certainly can't claim any expertise in US law or agencies. The Patriot Act was mentioned in the article, and the FBI is mentioned in the paragraph of the Act highlighted there.

And the issues is not whether or not people surprised or how some are not surprised by this, after all there were plenty of canaries that were singing loud and out about the ultimate logical consequences when those pieces of legislation were being drafted and passed.

Sure, I appreciate this isn't the issue that's sparked the lawsuit, but it's still the part that surprises me the most! I find it problematic that governments can openly pass legislation that, when then enforced, causes public consternation. My concern is that this either indicates a lackadaisical approach to public oversight of government, or a desire to be shielded from bad things through a pretence of ignorance.

What's happening now is that there is concrete evidence of said ultimate consequences, and then is when things get either start to get interesting or fizzle out instead.

Yeah, I agree. I'm very interested to see how this turns out in the long-run.

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