Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 19th Aug 2013 14:05 UTC

The partner of the Guardian journalist who has written a series of stories revealing mass surveillance programmes by the US National Security Agency was held for almost nine hours on Sunday by UK authorities as he passed through London's Heathrow airport on his way home to Rio de Janeiro.

David Miranda, who lives with Glenn Greenwald, was returning from a trip to Berlin when he was stopped by officers at 8.05am and informed that he was to be questioned under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000. The controversial law, which applies only at airports, ports and border areas, allows officers to stop, search, question and detain individuals.

Miranda also had all his equipment confiscated. He has done nothing wrong - there's no charges, no criminal suspicion, nothing at all. His only crime is being the partner of a famous journalist who, among other things, is one of the driving forces behind shining a light on the NSA's mass surveillance.

There is no war on terror, because the terrorists have already won.

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RE: New sort of terrorism
by fretinator on Mon 19th Aug 2013 21:25 UTC in reply to "New sort of terrorism"
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So it appears that not only have "the terrorits won", the governments are becoming a new sort of terrorist organisations. Way to go!

This is part of the "you become what your fear" equation. Now I must wave my hands in mysterious ways, see ya!

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RE[2]: New sort of terrorism
by mistersoft on Mon 19th Aug 2013 23:43 in reply to "RE: New sort of terrorism"
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doesn't need any explanation but still
Christianity Hitler Jews Israel Palestinians

I'm not even implying any causal relationships, or even that there's any element of cyclical behaviours, it's just a shame. the whole lot of it.

I wouldn't normally quote bibleyness, not religious, but I'd like to concur with Mr Leviticus 19:18 ..viewable here:

We don't live in democracy's - Not in UK and US at least. We simply don't

Openness(of intent), Transparency(of actions), Accountability(for all) -- I see little or none. And worse, it's not demanded. Loudly.

Edited 2013-08-19 23:44 UTC

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RE[3]: New sort of terrorism
by Tuishimi on Tue 20th Aug 2013 05:49 in reply to "RE[2]: New sort of terrorism"
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You are absolutely right. The three most important commandments we, as Christians, are supposed to live by are (boiled down a bit): 1. Love God. 2. Love everyone else as you would yourself (ie. take care of their needs, would you let yourself go hungry, without clothes, etc?) and 3. love each other as Jesus loved us (that pertains to serving others and giving your life for others).

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