Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th Oct 2013 21:47 UTC
Windows

Paul Thurrot has a number of rumours up about Windows Phone 8.1. Two stand out to me.

Where GDR3 is widely expected to support 5- to 6-inch screens, 8.1 will supposedly support 7- to 10-inch screens as well. This obviously infringes on Windows RT/8.x tablets, so it's not clear what the thinking is there.

So, Windows RT will become even more pointless than it already is.

Aping the iPhone navigation model, Microsoft will apparently remove the Back button from the Windows Phone hardware specification with 8.1. The Back button just doesn't make sense, I was told: Users navigate away from an app by pressing the Start button and then open a new app, just like they do on iPhone. And the "back stack" is ill-understood by users: Most don't realize what they're doing when they repeatedly hit the Back button.

This I am not happy with. The back button is my main navigational input in both Android and Windows Phone, and I miss it dearly in iOS.

I'm just hoping on performance improvements, still my biggest issue with Windows Phone. I used my HTC 8X for a few hours today, and I was stunned by just how slow everything is compared to Android 4.3. Of course, application quality is another huge issue, but there's little Microsoft can do to convince developers that their Windows Phone applications are more than just side projects done between serious work on Android and iOS.

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ronaldst
Member since:
2005-06-29

That's so depressive. Promoting people who can't market stuff to consumers with even more funding/responsabilities.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

That of course assumes that Windows Phones aren't selling more (because they already sell well -- the Lumia 520 is the best selling _Windows_ device ever) because of marketing, features, or customer satisfaction.

Windows Phone is about to get kicked into overdrive, and I implore you to see the writing on the wall. Microsoft is now a significant player in mobile with their Nokia acquisition and have essentially limitless financial resources to pull it (and Surface) off.

They're a tenacious competitor who are playing a long game. its a pincer move between the Desktop and the Enterprise (esp since they're now snatching up BBRY enterprise contracts) to get them a foothold.

I predict two more quarters of volume growth for Nokia and north of 10 million units a quarter by the end of the year, displacing a few Android OEMs.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

because they already sell well -- the Lumia 520 is the best selling _Windows_ device ever)


One of the most prominent reasons given for Nokia not to go with Android was that Nokia would not be able to compete in a race to the bottom with low-margin Android devices.

A few years later, and the big supposed champion for Nokia is a low-margin phone. The hypocrisy is palpable.

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_cynic_ Member since:
2012-04-18

...because of marketing, features, or customer satisfaction.
...
Windows Phone is about to get kicked into overdrive
...
They're a tenacious competitor who are playing a long game.
...

WTF! Not even MS's PR people and executives speak like that.

Lumias have an ASP of 225 dollars, the international market is around 400 dollars. That is way bellow market average. Add to that the 250mi per quarter MS gift, which is something like 40-80USD per Lumia sold.

In a nut shell, WPs are one of the cheapest smartphones and don't even f**king sell.

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_cynic_ Member since:
2012-04-18

I predict two more quarters of volume growth for Nokia and north of 10 million units a quarter by the end of the year, displacing a few Android OEMs.


Nokia has been overtaken by big names like Coolpad, even with 10mi it won't overtake any manufacturer.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

the Lumia 520 is the best selling _Windows_ device ever


That's kinda like being the tallest midget.

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