Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 15th Oct 2013 17:18 UTC
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AnandTech has reviewed the new Chromebook 11 from HP/Google.

Chrome OS is extremely purpose built and it is something that should bring about great concern to those at Microsoft. I personally don't have a problem with Windows 8, but purpose built is hardly a phrase that applies to the OS - at least if you're talking about it on a more traditional PC. I suspect by the time we get to Windows 9, Microsoft will have a better answer to the critics of 8/8.1, but that gives Google and its Chrome OS partners at least another year of marketshare erosion. At the beginning of this mobile journey I remember x86 being an advantage for Intel, and we all know what happened to that. Similarly, I remember Windows/Office being advantages for Microsoft. If Microsoft doesn't find a quick solution for making low cost Windows PCs just as well executed as Chrome OS devices, it'll find itself in a world where Windows no longer matters to entry-level/mainstream users.

Apple's taken over the high-end, Google is taking over the low-end, and in mobile, the company barely registers.

Microsoft's next CEO faces a herculean task.

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doubtful
by Kishe on Tue 15th Oct 2013 18:23 UTC
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2006-02-16

ChromeOS is...a glorified web browser.

I dont understand the value of laptops that are of more limited use than tablets.

Considering the value points...who'd buy chromebook over tablet?

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RE: doubtful
by moondevil on Tue 15th Oct 2013 19:12 in reply to "doubtful"
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2005-07-08

The Reddit and Hacker News crowd

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RE: doubtful
by dsmogor on Tue 15th Oct 2013 20:38 in reply to "doubtful"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

It is horizontally integrated and optimised web browser plus binary extentions, backed by a company that defines modern day computing.
It is not just glorified browser but glorified IE when it was strongest.

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RE: doubtful
by No it isnt on Tue 15th Oct 2013 20:43 in reply to "doubtful"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

It's not more limited than a tablet. You can use it for most tasks that need a keyboard (writing) and upload your work to a server (the cloud or whatever). The actual computing happens elsewhere. Microsoft's real concern should be that Chromebooks could make Office redundant as well.

A tablet isn't even good for its main purpose: browsing the web. Only a few Apple fanboys use them for actual work, and only because they really really want to, not because it's suited for it at all.

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RE: doubtful
by Flatland_Spider on Tue 15th Oct 2013 20:50 in reply to "doubtful"
Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

ChromeOS is...a glorified web browser.


That Google is turning into a full fledged runtime environment.

Once people buy into the Chrome App ecosystem they don't need Windows, Linux, or whatever. They just need Chrome, and what better way to run Chrome then an operating system dedicated to Chrome?

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RE: doubtful
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 15th Oct 2013 21:41 in reply to "doubtful"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Considering the value points...who'd buy chromebook over tablet?

The chromebook has a nice always attached Keyboard. Somethings are still easier with one. Google office has come a long way. On a good computer, I can barely tell the difference in speed between it and open office.

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RE[2]: doubtful
by darknexus on Wed 16th Oct 2013 00:19 in reply to "RE: doubtful"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Google office has come a long way. On a good computer, I can barely tell the difference in speed between it and open office.

If you don't mind Google indexing everything you write, that is.

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RE: doubtful
by Wondercool on Tue 15th Oct 2013 22:00 in reply to "doubtful"
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2005-07-08

Chrome is pretty ok for most people who only need a browser and a keyboard.

For me personally it's even better: I replaced ChromeOS with XUbuntu. Those Chromebooks don't come with Microsoft OS tax and the price point is brilliant.

I used to have Samsung NC20 11" netbook type computer.
Cost me 300 euro 4 years ago. Was quite slow and did not play games.
I replaced it with a 170 euro 11" acer C7 Chromebook 6 months ago. It is insanely good for the money. I put on Ubuntu (http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.ie/) and I can even play Portal or most Steam Linux games!

And now the Haswell version is out! I will never go back to if the hardware is this good for 170 euro

Granted I am not sure if the ARM based Chromebooks run linux (probably yes) but the Celeron based Acer is fantastic

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RE[2]: doubtful
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 15th Oct 2013 23:02 in reply to "RE: doubtful"
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2005-06-29

Can you put Ubuntu on the ARM version as well?

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RE[2]: doubtful
by ricegf on Wed 16th Oct 2013 10:51 in reply to "RE: doubtful"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Granted I am not sure if the ARM based Chromebooks run linux (probably yes) but the Celeron based Acer is fantastic


Google Crouton. Not only do ARM based Chromebooks run more traditional Linux environments, but they can do so simultaneously - e.g., switch between Chrome OS and Ubuntu with a hotkey, using the same kernel, with no reboots.

My son does this, using Chrome OS as his browser and Ubuntu for his homework as a senior in Computer Science at the local university. I'm very tempted by the HP Chromebook as a result.

It's brilliant, really, IMHO.

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RE: doubtful
by chithanh on Tue 15th Oct 2013 22:02 in reply to "doubtful"
chithanh Member since:
2006-06-18

Considering the value points...who'd buy chromebook over tablet?
A Chromebook can do a few things better than a tablet, mostly things that use keyboard input. A tablet + keyboard will cost much more than a Chromebook of similar screen size and still perform worse at these tasks.

Plus, the Chromebook is automatically sync'ed into the cloud. And you can share many Chromebooks between many users, which is an important selling point for schools.

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RE: doubtful
by Gone fishing on Wed 16th Oct 2013 05:31 in reply to "doubtful"
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2006-02-22

isn't one of the reasons MS destroyed Netscape is that they could see that a browsers could become a fully fledged platform - an OS and a threat to Windows?

The open-sourcing of Netscape to become Mozilla and Google's Chrome browsers show that MS was right. Now we have increasingly powerful tools to make Browser based applications, cloud computing etc. I'd be worried if I was MS.

To say that MS will still be dominate in desktop computing in 10 years (and this will be important)seems to me to be a very bold statement, which, would require a very reliable crystal ball - I don't have one.

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