Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 1st Nov 2013 09:34 UTC
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A new front opened today in the patent wars between large technology companies, as a consortium that owns thousands of patents from the Nortel bankruptcy auction filed suit against Google and other manufacturers alleging infringement. Rockstar, which is owned jointly by Apple, Blackberry, Ericsson, Microsoft, and Sony, filed suit in US District Court in Texas. In addition to Google, the consortium has alleged infringement by Asus, HTC, Huawei, LG, Pantech, Samsung, and ZTE.

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Since then, as recounted by Wired, Rockstar has been devoted to reverse-engineering the patents and looking for evidence of infringement. "Pretty much anybody out there is infringing," John Veschi, the CEO of Rockstar, told the magazine. "It would be hard for me to envision that there are high-tech companies out there that don't use some of the patents in our portfolio."

I told you Apple and Microsoft were patent trolls. They specifically set up a satellite company that owns nothing but patents, with the sole goal of attacking the competition in the courtroom instead of the market. What a bunch of low-life scum.

I'm surprised by Sony there, though. They use Android themselves.

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Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Can you show some evidence that it was set up for that?


It is a company that has no products, but only patents. They are now attacking with those patents. On top of that, the company itself has admitted that its only job is to reverse-engineer other people's products to see if they infringe, adding that according to them, every technology company infringes upon them.

So yes, they have been set up with the sole purpose of patent trolling, and Apple, Microsoft, and Sony are complicit in it. I know you somehow manage to simply ignore anything that doesn't fit into your view of Apple as God's Gift To The World, but it will be hard for you to get rid of this one - but I'm sure you'll amuse us with your attempts.

How does that fit with Google's Motorola division using SEP/FRAND patents offensively?


Those attacks - which are fucking lame and just as bad - started before Google bought Motorola. Doesn't make them any less of a group of assholes for continuing them.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

At least you're able to admit Moto/Google are just as bad.

Huge improvement over your childish "If I get punched in the face" analogy.

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tkeith Member since:
2010-09-01

As I understand it, the motorola suits started before Google took over, and were in a defense move, not offensive.

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Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

So yes, they have been set up with the sole purpose of patent trolling, and Apple, Microsoft, and Sony are complicit in it.


There is no evidence I can see that the Rockstar consortium was set up with the prior intention to use the patents to attack Google, if it was why on earth was Google invited to Join? However since the Rockstar acquisition of those patents, an acquisition that Google volunteered not to participate in, Google has continued to deploy SEP based patent attacks. Now the Rockstar patent portfolio is being used to counterattack. What did Google expect?


https://twitter.com/BradSmi/status/98902130412355585

Brad Smith, the general counsel of Microsoft 3rd August 2011

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Nice spinning.

Apple and Microsoft started the patent war versus Android.

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balaknair Member since:
2013-11-02

Google didn't buy into the Rockstar consortium for a simple reason. The offer was apparently to Google alone, not the Android OEMs. Up till then the modus operandi of MSFT and Apple was to go after the OEMs instead of Google(and the first suit filed in the iOS vs Android wars was Apple suing HTC). Google wanted those patents to protect its OEMs by giving them something to countersue Apple and MSFT with, which would not have been possible with the Nortel patents if they'd joined Rockstar. OTOH MSFT and Apple could still use those patents against the Android OEMs.

In other words, they'd just be paying for even more ammunition for MSFT and Apple to go after Google's OEMs.

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