Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 1st Nov 2013 09:34 UTC

A new front opened today in the patent wars between large technology companies, as a consortium that owns thousands of patents from the Nortel bankruptcy auction filed suit against Google and other manufacturers alleging infringement. Rockstar, which is owned jointly by Apple, Blackberry, Ericsson, Microsoft, and Sony, filed suit in US District Court in Texas. In addition to Google, the consortium has alleged infringement by Asus, HTC, Huawei, LG, Pantech, Samsung, and ZTE.


Since then, as recounted by Wired, Rockstar has been devoted to reverse-engineering the patents and looking for evidence of infringement. "Pretty much anybody out there is infringing," John Veschi, the CEO of Rockstar, told the magazine. "It would be hard for me to envision that there are high-tech companies out there that don't use some of the patents in our portfolio."

I told you Apple and Microsoft were patent trolls. They specifically set up a satellite company that owns nothing but patents, with the sole goal of attacking the competition in the courtroom instead of the market. What a bunch of low-life scum.

I'm surprised by Sony there, though. They use Android themselves.

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Tony Swash
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Of course you don't shed a tear. You're an Apple fanboi.

That doesn't change the fact that Google sought sole control of the patents in question, refused to join an industry spanning consortium when invited, and used patents acquired through the purchase of Motorola to launch legal actions based on SEP patents.

Google are not an innocent victim just victim of their own hubris and stupidity for mucking up the negotiations around the Nortel bid so profoundly.

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cdude Member since:

First it, the other group, was not Google but Ranger which included Google and Intel. Second Ranger bid 4.4b, Rockstar 4.5b. Theird only once Rockstar was picked an offer to Google came to join. Forth we don't know the conditions. "You can join us if you pay 3/4 of the sum and ..."? The offer was a PR-gag visible by making it to Google not Ranger, not naming conditions, blowing it to the press.

The Moto case came as answer. Sue us and we sue you and we cannot sue you if you not have products hence we outsource our patent-wars.

On top by outsourcing Rockstar bypassed the promise given by Microsoft and Apple to not sue which was condition for the Nortel patents takeover. See

Edited 2013-11-01 20:53 UTC

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bnolsen Member since:

interesting. very good thing mono never took off and google never went with c#. MS promised never to sue over mono but using a shell company gets around any promises apparently.

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Nelson Member since:

The promise was not to seek injunctions over SEPs and to broadly license SEPs on FRAND terms.

Not all of Nortel's patents are SEPs and certainly none of the patents asserted in this litigation are SEPs.

During the course of the division’s investigation, several of the principal competitors, including Google, Apple and Microsoft, made commitments concerning their SEP licensing policies. The division’s concerns about the potential anticompetitive use of SEPs was lessened by the clear commitments by Apple and Microsoft to license SEPs on fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory terms, as well as their commitments not to seek injunctions in disputes involving SEPs.

the investigation goes on to note that Google was more ambiguous in their promises and we can now see why, they've been seeking injunctions over SEPs since their Moto acquisition.

If anyone broke their promise it was Google.

cdude is wrong again. Why am I not surprised?

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