Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 4th Nov 2013 17:14 UTC

Tim Cook, in a letter published in The Wall Street Journal:

Apple's antidiscrimination policy goes beyond the legal protections U.S. workers currently enjoy under federal law, most notably because we prohibit discrimination against Apple's gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender employees. A bill now before the U.S. Senate would update those employment laws, at long last, to protect workers against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

We urge senators to support the Employment Nondiscrimination Act, and we challenge the House of Representatives to bring it to the floor for a vote.

It's hard to imagine for someone like me, from The Netherlands, but in the US, gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people have, in most states, far fewer rights than straight, non-transgender people. The LGBT community in the US still has a long fight ahead of itself, and large companies like Apple publicly urging Congress to address the archaic position of the LGBT community can only be seen as a good thing.

Most technology companies support the LGBT community's fight for equality, and considering the importance of this industry, that's a blessing.

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My response is that I don't believe in gay marriage. i don't believe in straight marriage.

The problem with all these view points is that we are trying to force them on others. Conservative Christians want the law to ban gay marriage. Liberal gays want to law to permit gay marriage. All sides seem to want a society to adopt their position as a single, true, correct position.

The fact of the matter is that none of these relationships should have anything to do with "greater society." Marriage between individuals should have NOTHING to do with government. If gays want to get married it has nothing to do with you. If you want to get married it has nothing to do with them.

The only correct position is to 'privatize' marriage. Let gay friendly churches marry gays, Let non-gay friendly churches marry straits. Let some churches marry both. Let non-religious people get married with a contract and a lawyer.

This is the only correct, non-coercive, position. I personally think people that think the government has a role in these matters to have somewhat authoritarian tendencies. These people aren't content with their own opinions, they are only content if everyone else is forced, by law, to follow them. That sort of world view, in my opinion, is despicable.

I apply the same standard to employment. Private business owners run a business how they want, it is their property. Nobody has a right to it, they have to reach an agreement with the employer to work for them. let gay friendly employers hire gays, if some anti-gay companies want to work against their best interests, let them. I'm a heavy person. I wouldn't want to work for an employer that hates fat people. I don't seek employment at a company that dislikes fat people. If you want to have a company run exactly the way you want it to run, rather than trying to pass laws to force companies to act against their will, start your own business. (the Government makes this difficult I might add).

The rational argument against what I'm saying is that society as a whole hates gay people, and gay people are disproportionately unemployed and poor. Well as I have indicated before this is simply not the case, the data shows quite the opposite. The market works when allowed to. Freedom works. People form relationships voluntarily without government. All sides can be quite content with their views, even when you think some are wrong. People just need to learn to live with the fact that some people are never going to like them, they are never going to have the same moral compass. Who cares? Don't associate with those people. I don't care which side you're on.

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Of course the government has a role, it gives certain privileges and benefits to married couples.

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