Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd Dec 2013 19:04 UTC

Absolutely fantastic article by Tracey Lien.

If the selection at the average retailer is anything to go by, girls don't play video games. If cultural stereotypes are anything to go by, video games are for males. They're the makers, the buyers and the players.

There is often truth to stereotypes. But whatever truth there may be, the stereotype does not show the long and complicated path taken to formulate it, spread it and have it come back to shape societal views.

The attitude towards women in video games is even worse when you take online multiplayer into consideration. One of my team mates in League of Legends is a woman, and I've seen some absolutely terrible things being thrown her way in chat - during and even after the game is over. I've also pretended to be female in League of Legends just to see what would happen, and it was just as bad. However, I could just shrug it off - hearing the things guys say while you're pretending to be a woman as an experiment is a hell of a lot different than hearing these things when you're actually a woman.

I even caught myself thinking 'my female team mate should just pretend to be a guy' - but you know what? That's expletive ridiculous. As Lien details in her article, changing the way video games are being marketed would be a very good first step that could most certainly snowball into the future.

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RE: Appalling.
by kwan_e on Wed 4th Dec 2013 02:28 UTC in reply to "Appalling."
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Meh. I'm really disappointed in you, folks, but then I didn't even expect anything better.

Every time Thom or someone posts something about social issues relating to tech, the majority of comments here that I see that get massively upvoted are those that try to be cynical:

1) Neil Armstrong - a person who shouldn't be lauded because it magically takes away from the efforts of others.

2) Alan Turing - a person who shouldn't get lauded or pardoned because it magically takes away from the efforts of others AND magically closes the door on LGBT rights. Somehow. Some inexplicable bullshit that gets repeated. The same stupid all-or-nothing crap that tends towards the latter, but makes people feel good for being oh so world weary and cynicaler-than-thou.

3) Gender issues in gaming - doesn't exist, or no-big-deal, or need to toughen up blah blah bullshit blah.

If I remember correctly, you specifically were arguing for point 2 when it came up a few times. If I'm wrong, my gravest apologies. But if I'm not, well, I don't think you can point the finger. If you argue for any of those points, you are feeding the culture of righteous cynicism that pretends to be deep and meaningful but is really just defeatism and ego-boosting.

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