Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Feb 2014 23:21 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu

The Ubuntu Touch smartphone OS has come a long way, but it still has further to plod before it's ready for market - all Canonical will tell us that it hopes to see an Ubuntu phone before the end of this year. Nevertheless, now that some phone manufacturers are on board with the project, we've been able to play with a couple of prototypes: One was just a non-functioning handset from a Spanish company called BQ, showing off plain but solid build quality reflective of a mid-tier device. The other was more interesting - a re-purposed Android handset from a second Ubuntu partner, Meizu, which makes light work of the operating system and interface.

It looks a bit choppy to me, but alas, it's a development build.

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Oh well...
by vtpoet on Fri 28th Feb 2014 00:27 UTC
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2013-12-31

It's really too bad Canonical didn't raise enough cash during its crowd-funding campaign. The hardware looked much more of-a-piece -- much more part of an overall vision. (Jobs' obsession with hardware, I think, helped sell Apple products.) If someone (not an Ubuntu user) can buy the same second-rate phone with Android, why buy Ubuntu? Would they even know what Ubuntu was? Who cares if the OS runs across different hardware? Big deal. Only a very few I suspect.

On the other hand, ChromeOS runs on 3rd rate hardware and is selling fairly well, but Google went after a niche that hadn't yet been filled. Ubuntu? They're trying to squeeze into a settled market. An OS that extends across devices is technically cool but, in the harsh practicalities of the market, is probably going to be utterly irrelevant -- and that seems to be their only real selling point. Hardware? No. Just run-of-the-mill. Price point? No. Ease if use? No. What advantage does Ubuntu bring to the table? Can't think of any that will matter to the market. They're a day late and a dollar short.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope Canonical succeeds, but if I had to put money on the table, I would bet against them. Shuttleworth seems like he was in the right place at the right time just once in his career (made his millions) but hasn't done much since (nothing more than anyone could have done with the same millions). I don't have much faith in his leadership.

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RE: Oh well...
by Nelson on Fri 28th Feb 2014 01:14 in reply to "Oh well..."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

ChromeOS was outsold by Windows RT in 2013. It is not selling well. According to IDC, it moved 2.5M units into the channel in 2013.

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RE[2]: Oh well...
by MOS6510 on Fri 28th Feb 2014 13:24 in reply to "RE: Oh well..."
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2011-05-12

And I wonder how many of those 2.5 M units have users that try to turn them in to real laptops?

Personally I think the whole Chromebook idea is silly. You take a real computer, make a webbrowser the OS and then try to make it run webapps to move back to true laptop functionality.

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RE[2]: Oh well...
by ralph on Fri 28th Feb 2014 19:45 in reply to "RE: Oh well..."
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2005-07-10

Chromebooks accounted for 21 percent of all notebook* sales, up from negligible share in the prior year, and 8 percent of all computer and tablet sales through November, up from one tenth of a percent in 2012 – the largest share increase across the various product segments.
Figures for the US by NPD.

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RE: Oh well...
by Fergy on Fri 28th Feb 2014 08:22 in reply to "Oh well..."
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2006-04-10

It's really too bad Canonical didn't raise enough cash during its crowd-funding campaign. The hardware looked much more of-a-piece -- much more part of an overall vision. (Jobs' obsession with hardware, I think, helped sell Apple products.)

Nobody has ever seen the 'hardware' because it was a render of the device. It also 'used' new materials that no company has ever used. There was no prototype.

It shows how stupid people can be with their money that Canonical even got half way to their ridiculous millions. How could you do that based on an idea when Canonical has never succeeded? The only thing Canonical did successfully is become the number 1 distro for a few years.

I had high hopes for Canonical but the last few years showed me nothing I could believe in.

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RE[2]: Oh well...
by vtpoet on Fri 28th Feb 2014 13:13 in reply to "RE: Oh well..."
vtpoet Member since:
2013-12-31

"Nobody has ever seen the 'hardware' because it was a render of the device."

You're right. I was really referring to the "proposed" hardware. Looked much better than what they've currently got.

The fact that there are only 5 comments, not including this one Thom, says everything that needs be said... sadly. There are already 30 comments on Samsung's Tizen OS -- for whatever reason.

Canonical may limp along, or not.

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RE: Oh well...
by moondevil on Fri 28th Feb 2014 12:41 in reply to "Oh well..."
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2005-07-08

On the other hand, ChromeOS runs on 3rd rate hardware and is selling fairly well


Where?!? I am yet to see anyone using one on my travels across Europe, or on sale for that matter.

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RE[2]: Oh well...
by drcouzelis on Fri 28th Feb 2014 14:11 in reply to "RE: Oh well..."
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2010-01-11

Where?!? I am yet to see anyone using one on my travels across Europe, or on sale for that matter.

I recently had some free time in Connecticut (US) so I browsed my local Staples store. I was surprised to see more than one Chromebook (I think there were three different models) on display and for sale. I tried one out. I was surprised because I had forgotten that Google added "windowing" support, and that it's no longer just a single fullscreen web browser window. ;)

I had some fun listening to a sales clerk explain Chromebooks to another customer. As a computer nerd myself, the clerk's description sounded a little silly.

Anyway, I have absolutely no idea if Chromebooks are selling well or are popular or are useful or are able to make me pancakes. I just wanted to share that story. ;)

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RE[2]: Oh well...
by vtpoet on Tue 4th Mar 2014 13:40 in reply to "RE: Oh well..."
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2013-12-31

Don't really have a dog in the ChromeOS hunt, but just noticed this article:

http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/764754-how-w...

For what it's worth.

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