Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th May 2014 18:36 UTC
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A San Francisco federal judge had decided that Oracle could not claim copyright protection on parts of Java, but on Friday the three-judge Federal Circuit panel reversed that ruling.

"We conclude that a set of commands to instruct a computer to carry out desired operations may contain expression that is eligible for copyright protection," Federal Circuit Judge Kathleen O'Malley wrote.

This is terrible news for the technology industry and us enthusiasts.

This case should have ended with this. Everything after that is a sham.

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RE: Switch to C#
by satan666 on Fri 9th May 2014 21:04 UTC in reply to "Switch to C#"
satan666
Member since:
2008-04-18

Why in the world would Google switch to Microsoft crap? Microsoft should never be trusted.
Maybe switching to Qt makes the most sense if Google ever decides to dump Dalvik, but the ecosystem is already built to run on Dalvik, so it would be insane to switch to anything else for the foreseeable future.

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RE[2]: Switch to C#
by Nelson on Fri 9th May 2014 21:24 in reply to "RE: Switch to C#"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Well Microsoft's various patent grants, community promises, code releases (under OSS licenses), and standards participation sure beats the hell out of what Sun/Oracle ever did.

Microsoft also routinely partners with Xamarin(Mono team) (they presented at BUILD ffs), gives them testing suites and technical specs in advance, etc.

C# and .NET would actually solve all of Google's problems (both current and upcoming) with Oracle.

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RE[3]: Switch to C#
by japh on Fri 9th May 2014 22:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Switch to C#"
japh Member since:
2005-11-11

C# and .NET would actually solve all of Google's problems (both current and upcoming) with Oracle.


What about the upcoming problems with Microsoft? You really think MS wouldn't do their best to bring Android down, like they already are doing?

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RE[3]: Switch to C#
by Vanders on Fri 9th May 2014 22:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Switch to C#"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

Out of interest, how much of Microsoft's assets do you think they've released under Open Source licenses, and how much of their patent portfolio do you think they've made any "promises" on?

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RE[2]: Switch to C#
by tanishaj on Fri 9th May 2014 22:57 in reply to "RE: Switch to C#"
tanishaj Member since:
2010-12-22

Why in the world would Google switch to Microsoft crap?


Because it is technically superior and less legally encumbered?

Microsoft should never be trusted.


You do not have to trust them if you have a copyright license and full patent grant. I do not trust them.

Maybe switching to Qt makes the most sense if Google ever decides to dump Dalvik


Android already supports native code. Qt already works on Android. It comes with all the pros and cons of native code.
http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/android-support.html


...the ecosystem is already built to run on Dalvik, so it would be insane to switch to anything else for the foreseeable future.


You do not have to dump Dalvik (as I said before). Just stop using Java to generate the bytecode. Dalvik is pretty slow though so it is worth considering.

You appear to have expended your efforts on building up emotional capabilities instead of your technical expertise.

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RE[3]: Switch to C#
by tylerdurden on Sat 10th May 2014 01:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Switch to C#"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17


You appear to have expended your efforts on building up emotional capabilities instead of your technical expertise.


From a 3rd party perspective, it's hard to discern if this comment was supposed to apply to the previous poster or yourself. ;-)

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RE[2]: Switch to C#
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Sun 11th May 2014 17:41 in reply to "RE: Switch to C#"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Dalvik isn't the issue its the API. They could keep the VM, and just switch the language.

In any case, they're experimenting with art, a native binary format as an alternative to Dalvik.

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