Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 15th Jul 2014 10:31 UTC
Windows

Microsoft has disabled an option to set Google as the default search engine on its latest Lumia Windows Phones. The option is currently supported on the majority of Nokia's Lumia devices, thanks to an advanced setting in Internet Explorer on Windows Phone 8.0. Microsoft acquired Nokia’s phone business in April, and the company's first handsets, the Lumia 630 and Lumia 930, are shipping without the option on Windows Phone 8.1. Microsoft has never allowed Windows Phone users to alter the physical search button behavior, which defaults to Bing, but Internet Explorer users could enable the setting to use the address bar to search within Google instead of manually navigating to the search engine or using the Bing default.

Oh my god Microsoft give it up already.

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Not sure I agree Thom
by charlieg on Tue 15th Jul 2014 10:38 UTC
charlieg
Member since:
2005-07-25

Bing has already happened. Bing is not far from 20% of the market in the US (something like 18% at the turn of the year) and Microsoft has deep, deep pockets.

Still, this anti-competitive streak of theirs is obviously never going to end no matter how many anti-trust suits they have to settle or get fined for.

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RE: Not sure I agree Thom
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 15th Jul 2014 10:42 in reply to "Not sure I agree Thom"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Nobody cares about US market share. World market share is what matters. Apple always does the same trick to make themselves seem more important.

Worldwide, Bing, despite so much marketing and money, is at 5%. Even Yahoo is more popular.

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RE[2]: Not sure I agree Thom
by avgalen on Tue 15th Jul 2014 11:15 in reply to "RE: Not sure I agree Thom"
avgalen Member since:
2010-09-23

Yahoo uses Bing
Competition is good. Basically everybody has given up. When DuckDuckGo is mentioned you hope it succeeds, when it is Bing you hope it doesn't. This basically makes you a hypocrite.

Bing in the US is different. It actually has many features that aren't available international so it is worth mentioning seperately. Worldwide Bing is only interesting because of the image search that seems better than Google's And because at least it offers an alternative

Now allowing another search engine as the default is a bad move. If you read the article and the comments you would actually see that Microsoft didn't do this though, so you basically fell for a bogus article.

Actually, when I turned on my 1020 for the first time it was already set to Google Search because it synches this setting from my Microsoft Account. How nice is that?

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RE[2]: Not sure I agree Thom
by zima on Sat 19th Jul 2014 17:34 in reply to "RE: Not sure I agree Thom"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Thom, don't Yahoo and duckduckgo use Bing?

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RE: Not sure I agree Thom
by kurkosdr on Tue 15th Jul 2014 12:13 in reply to "Not sure I agree Thom"
kurkosdr Member since:
2011-04-11

Bing has already happened. Bing is not far from 20% of the market in the US (something like 18% at the turn of the year) and Microsoft has deep, deep pockets.


Which would sound impressive, if Bing wasn't the default in 90+% of desktop and laptops shipped.

Back in the Internet Explorer 6 era, I assumed Microsoft would just put a search bar in Internet Explorer (similar to the one Firefox had), and easily grab 40% of the market.

But it didn't happen when IE7 was released. Guess people are genuiely not interested in Bing. Be it the actual search results quality of Google Search or a subjective belief that Google Search is always better.

Edited 2014-07-15 12:15 UTC

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RE: Not sure I agree Thom
by bassbeast on Thu 17th Jul 2014 16:23 in reply to "Not sure I agree Thom"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

What is more if you actually use it for awhile you find that its frankly nicer than Google. You get less SEO spammy results, the image search is waaay more accurate, the video search seems to hit what you are looking for more often than Google, frankly its just nicer.

Besides when did having actual free market competition come to be something that is booed and frowned upon? Hell I'd argue that if anything things have gotten too consolidated and when there was 3 major players there was more innovation as each scrambled to attract and keep users.

So if you haven't tried Bing in awhile give it a go, if nothing else make it harder for the dataminers to build a profile on you by spreading things around. I have my forum mail going to Google, personal through Yahoo, and do searches through Bing...suck it dataminers!

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RE[2]: Not sure I agree Thom
by Fergy on Fri 18th Jul 2014 09:37 in reply to "RE: Not sure I agree Thom"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

if nothing else make it harder for the dataminers to build a profile on you by spreading things around.

Bing would be a much better offer than DuckDuckGo right? Right!?

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