Linked by jessesmith on Wed 5th Nov 2014 10:39 UTC
Linux Over the past year I've been reading a lot of opinions on the new init technology, systemd. Some people think systemd is wonderful, the bee's knees. Others claim that systemd is broken by design. Some see systemd as a unifying force, a way to unite the majority of the Linux distributions. Others see systemd as a growing blob that is slowly becoming an overly large portion of the operating system. One thing that has surprised me a little is just how much people care about systemd, whether their opinion of the technology is good or bad. People in favour faithfully (and sometimes falsely) make wonderful claims about what systemd is and what it can supposedly do. Opponents claim systemd will divide the Linux community and drive many technical users to other operating systems. There is a lot of hype and surprisingly few people presenting facts.
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RE: Complexity
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 5th Nov 2014 22:19 UTC in reply to "Complexity"
Bill Shooter of Bul
Member since:
2006-07-14

systemd is more of a meta package that contains an init system as well as some optional services that are developed by the same people in the same repository. Kind of like KDE is a a windows manager, desktop environment and assorted utilities and applications. You can't take a look at just the size of all of KDE and make a value gross judgment on it. If you approach it with an open mind, at least you'll be able to appreciate the motivation behind it.

The various parts communicate via dbus and it uses cgroups to keep track of everything. The operating philosophy is to improve system management on linux. So it has lots of optional tools for doing that including things like hostnamed, logind, journald, etc.


Take a look, its pretty cool!


http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/

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RE[2]: Complexity
by tbullock on Thu 6th Nov 2014 08:14 in reply to "RE: Complexity"
tbullock Member since:
2012-01-30

Take a look, its pretty cool!


I have looked; the code idioms are preposterous. I would fire any of my employees who wrote software like that.

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RE[3]: Complexity
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 6th Nov 2014 14:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Complexity"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Well, judging by your "some things jumped out to me" section in your first post, I don't think you've looked at it enough to understood very much about systemd.

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RE[2]: Complexity
by hobgoblin on Thu 6th Nov 2014 18:41 in reply to "RE: Complexity"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

"some optional services"

For how long?

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