Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Sep 2017 21:52 UTC
Apple

iOS 11 has been released, and if you have an iPhone or iPad, you should really update right now. It's a big release, and especially iPad users will get to enjoy an overhauled user experience on their tablets. If you're not convinced, be sure to read the only two reviews you need: the one by fervent and enthusiastic (his enthusiasm for the iPad is infectious, in a good way) iPad user Federico Viticci, and the Ars Technica review written by Andrew Cunningham.

I've been using the betas on my 2017 iPad Pro 12.9", and it truly transforms how you use the iPad, to the point where I can use mine comfortably for work (translating, posting OSNews stories - like this one - and so on). No macOS or Windows laptop is as responsive and fluid as this iPad Pro, and the battery life of this machine is so good, it's probably illegal in 12 US states. Unlike macOS or Windows, I don't have to spend time fighting with iOS 11 to get it to do what I want, like fidgeting with windows, or anxiously managing battery life because otherwise I won't get through a day, or manage applications. And trust me, there's no PC - not even my own €4000 monster PC - that is as fluid and responsive as this iPad Pro.

The iPad Pro with iOS 11 is the truest realisation yet of it just works.

I'm not going to claim this is for everyone, or that you should ritually sacrifice your ThinkPad and run to the Apple Store and get the iPad Pro. However, after a few months of use, there's no way I'm ever going back to a traditional laptop. That being said - my only complaint about the 2017 iPad Pro 12.9" is an odd one: it's not a mobile device.

I am a sit down behind my desk kind of person. I work and compute behind a desk, with a large display at eye height and a comfortable chair. The iPad Pro isn't suited for this kind of work, as it forces you to look down, which due to back problems I cannot do for longer periods of time. What I really want is a small iOS box I can hook up a display, keyboard, and mouse to. Apple already makes such a box - the Apple TV - so I know they can do it. Mouse and keyboard support is probably coming to iOS over the coming years, and with the Mac Mini languishing, it feels like they might be working on just such a box.

I'd easily pay €500-700 for such a machine.

I know stating iOS is a great general purpose computing platform tends to be controversial - I myself have been skeptical about this very thing for years - but iOS 11 and the iPad Pro have utterly convinced me. This is the platform I want for laptop and desktop computer use. Windows and macOS feel like the past now.

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yerverluvinunclebert
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2014-05-03

Well said. The same argument applies on almost all his argued points. The mature platform and the well-developed program is always the better one to specify.

To argue that Affinity is better than Photoshop? For some reason Thom has gone off the rails on this one. Who would argue that learning something other Photoshop was anything other than a long term mistake?

Affinity? GIMP is arguably better than Photoshop except that in reality it isn't. There is no point in arguing this stuff with experts who know better.

I couldn't use GIMP or Affinity for any of the things I need it to do. The only reason I use photoshop is because of the enormous number of free resources, the investment in manpower and time, the stability and maturity in what it offers. Photoshop is my default IDE for graphical application development using conversion scripts that create XML descriptions for desktop apps that run on Windows and Android. Can Affinity do any of this? No. Affinity is not better than Photoshop at all for an infinity of reasons!

Thom's credibility has been damaged by articles and arguments like these and I'd like him to put him back on the rails. For his sake and my own - as I like this site and what it offers. The site's articles generally makes sense but not this one and certainly not Thom's biased response.

He hasn't realised that his opinions are not facts. He thinks that other's facts are opinions and in addition he judges them as being of less importance than his own. In this case he is WRONG.

Edited 2017-09-20 12:00 UTC

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I'd like him to put him back on the rails.


Well, I'm glad you're here to tell me that I'm wrong for finding the iPad Pro a perfectly fine general purpose platform, even though I specifically mention that I in no way wish to claim that such would apply to everyone.

I'll sell my iPad Pro right away, and go back to a clunky laptop with a maintenance intensive operating system with garbage battery life. Crisis averted. ;)

Edited 2017-09-20 11:58 UTC

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Sidux Member since:
2015-03-10

I guess the easier question to ask now is: Are you ready to take on cloud as your single point of computing power?
The rest are just GUI's to something managed elsewhere that will be further enhanced upon.

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yerverluvinunclebert Member since:
2014-05-03

Well, I'm glad you're here to tell me that I'm wrong for finding the iPad Pro a perfectly fine general purpose platform,


Your quote again and not mine. I think it would be a perfect platform for a lot of people. Your comments are what I am responding to.

it's the future


only for certain users/tasks as demonstrated.

Windows and macOS feel like the past now.


er...no.

No macOS or Windows laptop is as responsive and fluid as this iPad Pro.


Depends upon what you are doing!

I'd easily pay €500-700 for such a machine.


I'd easily pay £50 for such a machine. I'm using it now!

Unlike macOS or Windows, I don't have to spend time fighting with iOS 11 to get it to do what I want


I have fought the good fight with IOS in previous versions to get it to do anything other than the bare basics. Perhaps I am a power user?

If IOS 11 finally manages to release its potential then great, it's about time! From your tone it is the be-all and end-all but it is not, IOS is merely catching up. Thank goodness for that, maybe we can have an adult experience with the os as it matures.

Perhaps, the next step would be to open the environment, allow industry standard binaries to operate so we can run our 32bit and 64bit applications without fear that the os will change so much in two years as to make them unusable.

I'll sell my iPad Pro right away, and go back to a clunky laptop with a maintenance intensive operating system with garbage battery life. Crisis averted. ;)


You are losing the plot Thom. What's up with you? You aren't normally like this. Addition of a smiley face isn't an argument-winning answer.

The desktop PC environment isn't for everyone but that's the point. I recognise that each device suits its user but IOS as a general purpose computing environment? No, it is nowhere near ready for that as other more mature environments already exist. IOS is merely showing its potential in this market, it is capable, it currently has a niche market that is aiming for a wider uptake, that's all. My ipad-using kids are growing up and they might have been growing with the os, that's the sort of potential market (except they aren't as my kid's ipads won't run IOS 11).

Oh yes, ...and when are you going to reply to all the other points where you were found out to be factually incorrect or close to insulting?

Edited for typos (I really should be using IOS)

Edited 2017-09-20 12:27 UTC

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