Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Oct 2017 10:44 UTC
Windows

Overall, the Fall Creators Update is a nice set of improvements to Windows. Windows 10 continues to get better with each update. Its grab-bag nature continues to underscore just how Windows development has changed. As the Fluent work makes clear, Windows today is in some sense never finished. That's not something to be scared of; any piece of actively maintained, supported, updated software is in a sense "not finished."

With the new approach to developing and delivering Windows, that "unfinished" nature is more overt than it used to be. I'm sure some of the semi-annual Windows updates will feel larger in scope than others, depending on how the development work is going; others will feel a bit smaller. Because so much of the ground work was laid in the Creators Update, albeit hidden from view, this feels like a smaller update.

It's a list of relatively small and disjointed features, but I still really like this update. Especially the Fluent Design changes to applications are very welcome, and make Metro applications feel less... Dead? Less cold? They have more warmth now, which is definitely something missing from pre-Fluent Metro and current iOS UI design (not so much from Material Design, which is rife with colour and depth). The very, very subtle blur effect, the 'highlight' when hovering over buttons and menus, and the odd animation here and there really address the concerns of people who feel Metro takes the "flat" design trend too far to the extreme.

As a sidenote, "flat" really is a terrible term, since none of these UI design styles are really flat. Fluent, Material Design, and whatever iOS has are actually anything but flat, and have far more Z-depth than anything that came before - but I digress.

The emoji picker is really nice, but it baffles me why it's emoji-only; as someone with a deep, deep hatred for special character input on Windows, it baffles me that it doesn't include special characters. The new GPU panel in Task Manager is also very nice, and it feels like Edge is less flakey, too.

All in all, a nice free update.

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Comment by Sidux
by Sidux on Thu 19th Oct 2017 07:53 UTC
Sidux
Member since:
2015-03-10

Edge did come a long way, however it's still a hassle to find good extensions for it within the Store (that is when it works).
Not sure what Microsoft is doing but keeping the Store services down for a couple of weeks when everyone was complaining that they couldn't search, install, update or simply do anything in it is a weird way to promote your platform..
Not even going to touch the "functionality" of running dedicated Linux / Unix hosts from vendors when you try to promote at the same time your own bash implementation (which it's still not enabled by default in VS)..
Consistency is lacking on so many levels .. but I'm still not sure if it ever shinned. :-)

Edited 2017-10-19 07:54 UTC

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RE: Comment by Sidux
by modmans2ndcoming on Fri 20th Oct 2017 00:39 in reply to "Comment by Sidux"
modmans2ndcoming Member since:
2005-11-09

uBlock and Lastpass, Pocket....what else does someone need that isn't just an extension whore?

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RE[2]: Comment by Sidux
by joekiser on Fri 20th Oct 2017 13:04 in reply to "RE: Comment by Sidux"
joekiser Member since:
2005-06-30

Edge has to do something better than the current browsers to get people to switch in the first place. Simply having a few of the popular extensions isn't going to be nearly enough; it is going to be like the app situation on Windows Phones a couple of years ago, where Windows Phone fans called Android and iOS users who had applications that they couldn't have, "app whores." That mentality doesn't serve anybody well.

That being said, there is a tremendous opportunity for Edge to grow its userbase the next few months as the Mozilla people completely shit on Firefox extensions with 57. I was a NoScript user who used Mozilla since the milestone days, and a few months ago, I forced myself to discover the per-site whitelisting for JavaScript interface in Chrome. A great tool, and now I have no need to move back. That, along with the only extension I use, https everywhere, is something that I haven't been able to do in Edge, by the way. I guess that makes me an extension whore?

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RE: Comment by Sidux
by modmans2ndcoming on Fri 20th Oct 2017 00:41 in reply to "Comment by Sidux"
modmans2ndcoming Member since:
2005-11-09

BTW...the Linux Subsystem is to bring tooling to windows for people that need them, not run a full blown *nix platform atop windows.

Azure offering a Linux solution is totally within their new corporate vision.

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RE[2]: Comment by Sidux
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 20th Oct 2017 19:17 in reply to "RE: Comment by Sidux"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

I thought he was complaining that there was more than one way to do something.

Which is true, but honestly WSL does so much more than any other Bash available on windows. Its a good choice, and basically everyone should just ignore anything else. having options that no one uses isn't a big problem for most people. There are probably a million ways of doing things in window already, that we probably don't know of ( well except that win super site guy).

A little inconsistency here and there is usually a good thing. It means that the designer knows the limitations of the paradigm.

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