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Novell and Ximian A demonstration of the next release of Novell's Linux for desktops drew cheers and applause Wednesday, although the final version of the software is not expected for some months. Nat Friedman, the company's vice president of Linux desktop engineering, showed Novell Linux Desktop 10 playing videos and MP3 music files, and exchanging music and photos with an iPod and a digital camera, in a keynote presentation at the Solutions Linux conference and trade show on the outskirts of Paris.
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RE: Looks....
by Lumbergh on Fri 3rd Feb 2006 12:42 UTC in reply to "Looks...."
Lumbergh
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2005-06-29

Like I keep saying, there is nothing actually holding Linux back as a desktop operating system - all things being equal, if all the software on Windows suddenly became available for Linux (or some other UNIX like operating system), Windows wouldn't stand a chance BUT the fact remains, people choose their operating system based on what software can run on top of it.

And that's why Mono should be an official part of Gnome, so that those future apps (ALL Windows apps will be .NET targeted eventually) can at least give developers a fighting chance to port it without too much grief. But we can only assume that RedHat will do its best to keep the linux desktop a failure at any substantial market penetration

And then you get the whole KDE/Gnome fighting and it's no wonder that Microsoft laughs to the bank.

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RE[2]: Looks....
by kaiwai on Fri 3rd Feb 2006 18:42 in reply to "RE: Looks...."
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2005-07-06

1) Use of .NET as a framework for building applications is a LONG way off - look how long it took for the transition from win16 to win32, some companies were still shipping win16 applications right up until the beginning of 2000!

2) KDE already has almost every bit of the technology laid out, hence my comfusion as to why people still scream GNOME - someone NEEDS to purchase Trolltech and make Qt completely opensource under something like BSDL or CDDL, something that is nice 'n commercial friendly.

3) (Not directly bought up by you, but I'll address it anyway) Although there is WINE out there, do we really want to enter into a situation where software companies simply avoid brining native applications to Linux or UNIX in geneal because, "oh well, it works just as good on WINE" - thus opening up a rather large quagmire.

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RE[3]: Looks....
by miguel on Fri 3rd Feb 2006 20:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Looks...."
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2005-07-27

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1) Use of .NET as a framework for building applications is a LONG way off - look how long it took for the transition from win16 to win32, some companies were still shipping win16 applications right up until the beginning of 2000!
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Technology adoption is a fascinating topic. You are correct pointing out that even in 2000 people were building win16 applications in 2000. Technology adoption does not happen overnight.

The good news is that certain sectors will adopt it early. With Mono these early adopters, as well as the larger market will have a choice of running their software on Unix.

In addition to that, many of Novell's own products are being built with Mono (iFolder, Hula, F-Spot, Beagle, Casa, Banshee and a few other internal apps that we have not released yet).

The productivity boost (due to many factors) is very significant in our experience.


2) KDE already has almost every bit of the technology laid out, hence my comfusion as to why people still scream GNOME - someone NEEDS to purchase Trolltech and make Qt completely opensource under something like BSDL or CDDL, something that is nice 'n commercial friendly.


So does GNOME. All of those bits of technology are there as well.

The major bits for desktop adoption include improving OpenOffice interoperability and feature set, improving interoperability with Microsoft formats, making sure device drivers keep working across kernel versions.

Miguel

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