The GNOME Desktop 2.4 Beta 2: “Subotai”, is available for immediate download on ftp.gnome.org and mirrors since August 31st. The RC1 of Gnome 2.4 is expected to be released in a few days while work for the GTKFileChooser API has started (most possibly to be included on Gnome 2.6 next year).
GNOME Desktop 2.4 Beta 2: “Subotai” Released
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Too much emphasis on this new filechooser, alot of other sweet stuff are happening in the sweet world of Gnome. I’ve been running this for a couple of days now and it’s all good.
Updated CVSGnome 0.4.5 to build 2.4.0 Beta2 can be found here:
http://www.akcaagac.com/index_cvsgnome.html
Like the character from the Conan movie?
I have read through the docs at gnome and havent found anything of substance in this release. Is there anything of significance other than bug fixes in this release?
thx
Yes, much emphasis on the file selector.
But that is because it is a bloody important piece of gnome.
And this is the MAIN drawback with open-source software,
developers fix things THEY think are important. Not things that are lacking for a good functionality.
I think they’re just trying to make sure people stop bugging them about the file selector. It’s awful as-is, and they probably get a lot of crap for it. This is an effort to slim down the requests inbox’s spam!
I dunno about Gnome 2.6, but I am using the dev snapshots of Gnome 2.4 from marcuscom.com on FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 and it rocks :> Nautilus is fast as hell and Gimp 1.3.19 is very nice as well
What sort of hardware are you running Gnome on?
In the past year I’ve gone from being a diehard Windowmaker user to a diehard Gnome user. I’m looking forward to see what happens by version 3.0, although I’d rather have more stability/speed than more features.
Gnome 1.0 was released in 1999. For coming up on four years of development, I say they have made great progress. I hope they keep up the good work in the original spirit of Gnome.
> For coming up on four years of development, I say they
> have made great progress.
Do you think ? Can you describe a bit what you think this sentence justifies ? I don’t want to sound harsh or rude here since I support GNOME myself but KDE made far more progress in that time with integration, functionality and so on. If you compare both Desktops from what they was and what they are now.
> I hope they keep up the good work in the original spirit
> of Gnome.
That’s also a sentence I would like to know how you justify this ? If the people would still follow the ‘original spirit of GNOME’ then we would have a Desktop that suits the JOE user as well as the Technical user. We would have cool features and fast progress in development. Instead of removing things we could have arranged them better for overall satisfaction. On the one side some ideas are nice but overall not satisfying enough. There is no spirit behind GNOME anymore only following the steps of commercial interests behind it. Those who pay their developers direct it’s destination.
This is just an opinion anyways and I already regret having writen this because it takes only 60 seconds until the task force shows up
But I would really love to hear what your justification for these two sentences are so I can understand you better and ignore the rest I wrote.
By the way, this is also nice to read:
http://www.gnomedesktop.org/comments.php?op=showreply&tid=16269&sid…
Besides all these bells and whistles there is also reality.
“What sort of hardware are you running Gnome on?”
I am running Gnome 2.4 dev snapshots
compiled with: “-O2 -mmmx -m3dnow” on:
AMD T-Bird 1400 Mhz
512 MB DDR ram
GF4 Ti4200
under:
FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2
I tried to install garnome on a 4.7 gig hard drive and ran out of space, note to ppl checking the readme file.. 1.2 gigs is NOT the space needed for gnome-desktop anymore. i had 2.6 gigs free and ran out, so i uninstalled office, and extra kernels freeing up 350mbs, then when i have 100mbs left guess what i see garnome fetching… mozilla (game over)still probably need another gig
Okay, I was just making sure. Gnome and Nautilus run at a great speed if your computer is around 900mhz and above and has 256 megs of ram or higher. And even below that you get a pretty good clip.
I just think that people put the slowness of Nautilus way out of proportion. You can’t live on a 600mhz or lower machine forever, dangit.
Odd, I’ve installed it fine in far less space than 4.7 gigs. Complete with all sorts of apps, Moz, Openoffice, and more.
Is it possible to ban oGALAXYo from posting on Gnome related articles? His trolling makes these things nearly unreadable.
My /usr is 5.1 GB, but it has 2.4 GB of games, OpenOffice and 293 installed ports
I think you are going quite too far with your accusations. I have been asking 2 simple questions to that anonymous person nothing else. Nothing of what I wrote are secrets. I would suggest if you get some background facts which would enlighten you a bit. I spent the last 3.5 – 4.0 years on GNOME and have seen a lot of things happening, people comming and going. Just because I’m questioning the one or other thing around GNOME makes me no troll. Banning for what ? For having an own opinion ?
I’ve heard nothing but complaints about Gnome2 from you since 2.0. Do you have ANYTHING positive to say? While your comments don’t always cross the “troll” line, they get tiresome. Yes, we know you don’t like the direction or some of the key developers. If you are so dissatisfied, use (and develop for) KDE (or XFce or IceWM).
Man those icons look nice ! Are they stock or personal touches ?
Ok you wanna answers? I’am not the original poster but i will try.
>> For coming up on four years of development, I say they
>> have made great progress.
>Do you think ? Can you describe a bit what you think this >sentence justifies ? I don’t want to sound harsh or rude >here since I support GNOME myself but KDE made far more >progress in that time with integration, functionality and >o on. If you compare both Desktops from what they was and >what they are now.
Are you kidding?
ATK (for the disabled), great fonts (Pango -> right-to-left text alignment, Arabic/Chinese/… Text, AA), better usability (simply KISS), better architecture, more great apps – Evolution, Galeon, Epiphany, Rhythmbox, gPhoto, Glade,…, HUGE speed improvements (especially Nautilus), the list is almost endless, KUDOS to the GNOME developers.
OK not everything is GNOME-core, some things are GTK related
or independent apps, but IMHO the whole counts. How do you judge the improvements in KDE vs. GNOME, they have very different design philosophies: GNOME – small simple core, many independent apps vs. KDE – big core with many productivity apps. They even focus on different things – fetaures vs. usability. You can only judge by comapring what their goal was and what the achieved – in this light both desktops made huge improvements.
>> I hope they keep up the good work in the original spirit
>> of Gnome.
> That’s also a sentence I would like to know how you
> justify this ? If the people would still follow the
> ‘original spirit of GNOME’ then we would have a Desktop
> that suits the JOE user as well as the Technical user.
It does, at least for me and for thousands of other people.
What the hell is a “technical user”, a robot or what? You even don’t understand user profiles, please don’t try to discuss usability.
> We would have cool features and fast progress in
> development.Instead of removing things we could have
> arranged them
No, no and no you seem one of this “you removed my favorite feature xyz” trolls in the gnome forums. You still don’t get it: GNOME is removing features that almost nobody needs – if many people complain, features are put back in – this IS reality, check the mailing lists, forums and IRC channels!
A GUI which statisfies 100% is not yet devolped! Read Havoc’s essay about usability in free software, and then come back.
> better for overall satisfaction. On the one side some
> ideas are nice but overall not satisfying enough.
Which ideas? what is not statisfying enough? don’t troll around…
> There is no spirit behind GNOME anymore only following the
> steps of
> commercial interests behind it. Those who pay their
> developers direct it’s destination.
Now we all now your attitude: you like conspiracies: GNOME is taked over by companies. UUUUH. This is absurd, many INDEPENDENT companies (Ximian, Sun, RedHat, IBM) are working on GNOME, this is true, but this also HELPED GNOME very much. Behind the GNU/Linux OS is also MUCH commercial interest, what’s your point? Also behind KDE (SuSe, Kompany,…)
Your claims where often disproved with FACTS in the gnome forums…read them.
But I must admit your troll is good hidden behind polite phrases! But this doesn’t change that you’re a clown, 90% of your posts don’t have substance, go back to your small, dark room, close the door and throw the key away, THIS would IMPROVE our lives! This is MY opinion.
>KDE made far more progress in that time with integration, >functionality and so on. If you compare both Desktops from >what they was and what they are now.
Well it depends what way tou look at it. Gnome has also created a toolset from scratch (gtk+) as well as doing a load of work on usability. Both projects are doing great and
are heading in different directions. I honestly don’t
believe that one is “doing better” than the other.
Your comment about the “task force” just proved you were the one trolling anonymously in the other post (the “clusterf*ck” one).
It’s not that I didn’t recognize you almost immediately then (dns + writing style + typical “opinions”), but you confirming it sure takes even more credibility from you.
It’s kind of funny that you say you “support gnome” and just keep trolling about it. Could you make up your mind a bit, please?
About some of the advances in gnome (2.4), you just need to read here:
http://www.ilug-cal.org/GNOME_2_4.html
I’m sure you did before, anyway you prefer to deny how much gnome has improved. Not like I care, after reading so many positive comments here, but I’d like you to think about your attitude so far.
“And this is the MAIN drawback with open-source software,
developers fix things THEY think are important. Not things that are lacking for a good functionality.”
Please don’t make stupid sweeping generalizations like this. It just makes you look ignorant.
is here: http://ometer.com/free-software-ui.html
is here: http://ometer.com/free-software-ui.html
read it. it brings out some rather good points, and should clarify things.’
one thing i don’t get is how people can get so worked up about a desktop environment that they don’t use. if you say bad things about GNOME you probably don’t use it, and if you don’t, then shut up. why troll? i like to read osnews.com, but lately the troll activity (especially the KDE trolls) has been high. painfully so.
KDE is a very advanced desktop, I must admit. Their architecture is good. However, GNOME has a good architecture as well, just that it’s a relatively young project. GNOME 2 has been a complete UI rewrite, as well as app rewrite in areas. KDE 3 is just an upgrade. There is bound to be some lag in the GNOME side of things.
In my opinion, GNOME will start to keep pace about 2.6. So that’s that problem done with.
> Man those icons look nice ! Are they stock or personal touches ?
Well the icons based on the Stylish iconset which you can find on http://art.gnome.org/