Fedora Core 4 sponsored by Red Hat and supported by the Fedora community (soon to be Fedora Foundation) has been released with a number of new
features including GNOME 2.10, KDE 3.4, Openoffice.org
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GFS,
GCC 4.0, Enhancements in SELinux, support for the PPC architecture, Free Java stack (using GCJ) including Eclipse and Apache Jakarta among others. Download
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All mirrors are slow. It seems that millions want the new version, from the first day! Go Fedora, go!!!
(not being ironic!)
How do I update my Core 3 to Core 4 without b0rking everything ? Is there a simple ‘upgrade’ switch/command I can execute ? (up2date?)
what exactly are those “enhancements” to Openoffice.org2?
And is it really stable enough, ther hasn’t even been a release candidate!?
I believe you can upgrade just by using the CD installation and selecting “Upgrade”.
The other option is to point your APT repository at the new directories and do “apt-get dist-upgrade”, but that is not guaranteed to work, and is considered unsupported.
FC4 looks great. But I think before Linux can really become an alternative to Windows, the opensource community needs two things that 99% of the regular joe now use:
1) Full Featured CD/DVD Burner – Linux needs to create a tool that behaves very similar to Nero or EasyCD Creator. 99% of the people who own computers now use CD/DVD Burning. It’s almost a crime that Linux does not have anything like this.
2) Full Featured Media Player – Linux needs one fully featured, easy to use application that people use to play their music, play all type of videos, and to play DVD’s. Furtheremore, this application should be able to rip one format to another (like CD to MP3) In addition, it should be able to be used to manage all music and video files.
These applications need to be Gnome/KDE unspecific (like openoffice and Mozilla). Once Linux gets this, the desktop experience will be complete and the average joe will be very happy with Linux.
Mirrors would be slow, the torrent while not at full speed still downloaded at a good rate. … I guess since Fedora packs the latest and greatest, no doubt people would be filled with anticipation.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq will help you.
short version
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/2.0/index.html
medium version
http://marketing.openoffice.org/2.0/featureguide.html
long version
http://development.openoffice.org/releases/q-concept.html
For CD/DVD burnig have you heard of k3b it rivals any burning software also Nero is now available for GNU/Linux
> what exactly are those “enhancements” to Openoffice.org2?
I guess the GNOME and KDE desktop integrations patches of Novell. At least I’m not aware of RedHat contributing significant own effort into OOo.
I am not trying to be rude or something…but can someone give me some convincing points on how it is better than Ubuntu… No no distro wars please. I like Ubuntu but I would also like to know why people like Fedora.
Also can anyone tell me to quote comments made my someone else. Right now I am trying to use <em> </em> to try to distinguish my statement from the comment I am quoting but even that doesn’t work.
<em>
1) Full Featured CD/DVD Burner – Linux needs to create a tool that behaves very similar to Nero or EasyCD Creator. 99% of the people who own computers now use CD/DVD Burning. It’s almost a crime that Linux does not have anything like this.
2) Full Featured Media Player – Linux needs one fully featured, easy to use application that people use to play their music, play all type of videos, and to play DVD’s. Furtheremore, this application should be able to rip one format to another (like CD to MP3) In addition, it should be able to be used to manage all music and video files. </em
I think K3b works good enough. And now we also Have Nero 4 Linux. Don’t know whether it works fine or no? Although I would agree that we need something like WMP, an integrated mm player that plays anything with w32codecs installed minus the DRM crap and stuff.
As mentioned, the supported upgrade method is from CDs. There is however an upgrade path via yum that should be getting better and less problematic with each release. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq
People have always been as excited, but what really sets FC4 apart is the fact that people have started to catch onto the Fedora release schedule. And with the schedule postponed a week like it was, that only raises the level of anticipation across the community.
So yes, a lot of people were waiting to start downloading as soon as the release propogation started
But hey, what does it matter to me?
I already have FC4 ^^ It’s clean 
Oh no… None of the above works. I give up. Can anyone tell me how to quote! Puhleeze.
On Topic : Fedora Mirrors are really slow… I am on a pokey 80 Kbps download speed and I am getting speeds of around 40 while d/l Fc4.
Huh? No link to the Fedora release annoucement? How could you live without good dose of these every 9 month?
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2005-June/msg00…
Oh no… None of the above works. I give up. Can anyone tell me how to quote! Puhleeze.
If you read the blurb at the bottom, only bold and italics are supported. So, I use italics.
Off topic: You can quote somewhate by just copying and pasting the text you want to quote and using either quotation marks or italics. Most people figure out either one pretty quickly. Also, you’ll have to use the old-style bold and italics tags.
On Topic: You can find torrents for the new FC4 release at http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/
Hopefully that will be a little faster for you.
what exactly are those “enhancements” to Openoffice.org2?
Fedora version of Openoffice.org 2 uses free Java (GCJ) instead of Sun Java. And yes, it is stable enough to be daily used.
@ slash
AFAIR, Windows XP does not include one of two listed arguments on the system either. Using your argument, Windows XP is not ready for the desktop either.
1) Full Featured CD/DVD Burner – Linux needs to create a tool that behaves very similar to Nero or EasyCD Creator. 99% of the people who own computers now use CD/DVD Burning. It’s almost a crime that Linux does not have anything like this.
K3B is proven to be a viable alternative. Nero is available for free download as long you own Windows version: http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html. Remember that even Windows does not provide burner like Nero unless the vendors include it on the system.
2) Full Featured Media Player – Linux needs one fully featured, easy to use application that people use to play their music, play all type of videos, and to play DVD’s. Furtheremore, this application should be able to rip one format to another (like CD to MP3) In addition, it should be able to be used to manage all music and video files.
Neither OSes (Linux distros, Windows, OS X) include all format to play medias (divx, quicktimes, ogg, etc) thus you will have to download them on the Internet. Also, in Fedora case, users should be encouraged to try format other than MP3 such as OGG Vorbis because of patents free.
Torrents : Oh Yeah! Thanks for reminding me about torrents! I had forgotten I had that option… Thanks… [No sarcasm..I mean it
] I am on my way to download FC4 using the Torrent protocol..Whoa! Fc4 here I come!
Quotes : Testing them again
‘Do Quotes work’
” Do Quotes work? ”
And how do italics work
(…
I ran a yum update (on Test3) and now i have a FC5!! Kernel installed. Where do i tell yum to use FC4??
Thanks!
Check the “Updating” comments on the previous page.
FC5???? I didnt get it?? I mean arent we now on fc4 ??
[bold] bold? [/bold]
<bold> bold? </bold>
<strong> strong? </strong>
NP. Hope the new FC release works out for you.
Italics would be < i > < / i > (remove the spaces.)
“I ran a yum update (on Test3) and now i have a FC5!! Kernel installed. Where do i tell yum to use FC4?? ”
The development tree is now Pre-FC5. There was a announcement in fedora-test list about this. I would suggest doing a clean installation of Fedora Core 4 rather than downgrading from the current development tree
if they updated their SATA drivers in this version? They haven’t touched them in some time and that’s the only thing keeping me from going back to linux–lack of significant SATA support without server-level hardware upgrades to my desktop PC.
SATA is much better in this release. Check it out. If you have specific problems get them into bugzilla.redhat.com
anonymous:
I think RedHat helped make OOo2 run with open source Java.
OOo 2 uses Java more heavily than OOo 1.
I am not trying to be rude or something…but can someone give me some convincing points on how it is better than Ubuntu… No no distro wars please. I like Ubuntu but I would also like to know why people like Fedora.
From my observation:
– Desktop usage is fast due Gnome 2.10
– For speed freak, boot time is improved. It is possible to use early login option (disable by default)
– yum is improved with the use of sqlite2 (see Fedora documentation on http://fedora.redhat.com), the speed matches apt-get. yum support multilib i.e. both 32bits and 64bits packaged can be mixed. You can use yumex http://linux.rasmil.dk/cms as Synpatic equivalent. You can use apt but it is obsolete as the creator now works on Smart package manager.
– New features such as Xen, GCC 4 and GCJ (which is perhaps the starring feature), Eclipses to try out.
– Custom installation, something that Ubuntu lacks. I heard Colonial version will include a graphical installation.
– Ram consimption is drastically improved compared to Fedora Core 3.
The decision belongs to you, I suggest to grab Fedora Core 4 and try it out. I will write a review after I completely explorer all Fedora Core 4.
what exactly are those “enhancements” to Openoffice.org2?
I guess the GNOME and KDE desktop integrations patches of Novell. At least I’m not aware of RedHat contributing significant own effort into OOo.
Like Andrew Z. said, Red Hat do a lot of work to makes OOo 2 works with GCJ.
Apart from that, there’s Native Widget Framework,
which make OOo looks & feels the same way with other native apps.
http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/ooo-nwf.html
now i have still some development packages installed. How do i downgrade to the official FC4 packages?
can i mount my dmcrypt encrypted partition, created under hoary, with the actuall fedora release?
I am not trying to be rude or something…but can someone give me some convincing points on how it is better than Ubuntu… No no distro wars please. I like Ubuntu but I would also like to know why people like Fedora.
Well, i like it because i’m used to it, and i know my way around it. There aren’t many things in Fedora you won’t find in Ubuntu, or the other way around. If you’re used to Ubuntu (or Debian), and it suits you, then unless you just want to try something else, i’d say stay where you are.
Fedora is great, Ubuntu is great. Linux is linux.
Either you use smart package manager, use the command “rpm –oldpackage <packagename>” or following this advice from Rahul @ redhat post:
The development tree is now Pre-FC5. There was a announcement in fedora-test list about this. I would suggest doing a clean installation of Fedora Core 4 rather than downgrading from the current development tree
The two formers are risky because possible conflicts.
> Apart from that, there’s Native Widget Framework,
Are you sure that NWF is still used in OOo2?
installation from start to finish here
http://www.linux-noob.com/screenshots/fedora/4/install/index.html
screenshots of the os after the install
http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1607
have fun, this is a really nice distro, well done to the Fedora team, it’s well worth the download
cheers
anyweb
Impressive set of features.Yet still a minor problem perhaps related to x86_64 (or my machine) only.
The latest nvidia driver is installed flawlessly.After reboot i got the following output:
Starting systat: Calling sadc
Starting read ahead early
Checking for new hardware:”You are attempting to run system-config-display”
password for root:
However when i enter the root passwd i get the following error message:”Error creating netlink socket (permission denied)
After trying to enter the # passwd two times and getting the above mentioned error i just pressed enter and that worked.
Compared to SuSE 9.3 FC4 boots a little faster,the gnome interface isn’t faster than KDE3.4.All in all when some minor obstacles have been dealt with FC4 could be a killer with a lot of features,keep up the good work 🙂
I tried UBUNTU, I am not impressed. The reason there are many GUI tools in Fedora for configuring stuff which Ubuntu lacks. I am comfortable with rpm’s and most of the times can grab something off the net for dependencies. I like the overall looks of the Distro. Fedora is always cutting edge when it comes to the packages.
Apart from that, there’s Native Widget Framework,
Are you sure that NWF is still used in OOo2?
at least the Issue Tracker says that:
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/Search?query=nwf&scope=domain&ar…
for example:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=45634
(“NWF tabpage painting slow with gtk plugin”, reported against OOo 2.0 Beta)
Just installed FC4 an hour ago. If you live in the US West and have broadband, try http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/. I was able to finish a workstation installation in a little less than an hour.
First impressions:
1. I don’t know f it’s prelink or GCC 4.0, but FC4 is noticeably faster than previous releases. In particular, this improvement is noticeable during the booting process.
2. The default installation is plain old Fedora-style GNOME, with the Clearlooks theme as default. Openoffice.org 2.0 is not GNOME-integrated.
3. YUM is a lot faster now that it uses sqlite.
…this looks like a keeper to me. :p
anyone know how long it will take for additional components to be ready for FC4? either for apt or yum repo’s…
–griz
It looks like Dag Wieers already has fc4-rpms in his repository.
Good ol’ Dag…
anyone know how long it will take for additional components to be ready for FC4? either for apt or yum repo’s…
–griz
I believe it took a couple of weeks with the FC2 to FC3 transition. Dag is also pretty fast. Within a couple of weeks he had full support for RHEL4 (I used the repo with CentOS).
How do I update my Core 3 to Core 4 without b0rking everything ? Is there a simple ‘upgrade’ switch/command I can execute ? (up2date?)
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Why bother? Just back up your home directory and other personal stuff, and do a clean install of core 4, then restore from your backups.
I *NEVER* bother with the upgrade route when I move to a newer OS. It’s not worth the hassles.
Full Featured CD/DVD Burner – Linux needs to create a tool that behaves very similar to Nero or EasyCD Creator. 99% of the people who own computers now use CD/DVD Burning. It’s almost a crime that Linux does not have anything like this.
Well Linux has many cd/dvd burners.I would recommend K3b.It’s interface is in my opinion more intuitive than most others.Or you could buy nero for Linux,you would have to buy it for windows anyway, don’t you?
“I am not trying to be rude or something…but can someone give me some convincing points on how it is better than Ubuntu… No no distro wars please. I like Ubuntu but I would also like to know why people like Fedora. ”
No distro war here – I like both.
But here are some reasons I prefer Fedora over Ubuntu:
– Fedora has the fantastic Anaconda GUI installer (one of the best intallers in the Linux world). Ubuntu’s is text based, which gets the job done, but is not as nice to use as Anaconda.
– My experience is that Fedora’s hardware detection has been better, particularily with video.
– More software out of the box, which means less downloading after install.
– Fedora skills more transferable in the job market, considering Red Hat’s dominance
– Fedora’s awesome GUI config tools. Ubuntu has Gnome-System-Tools, which is nice, but not nearly as extensive or powerful as the various GUI config tools Fedora has.
– Tons of books on Fedora/RHEL, which are a tremendous resource
– Both user communities awesome, but Fedora’s is larger, if that means anything.
– Individual taste – IMHO, Fedora looks much much much nicer out of the box. Bluecurve and ClearLooks look terrific, as well as the various backgrounds in Fedora. The new Hoary default background looks hideous to me.
– More commercial apps available for Fedora – including Oracle, JBuilder, WebSphere, etc.
– If you’re a Java dev, Fedora is the most Java friendly.
“Well Linux has many cd/dvd burners.I would recommend K3b.It’s interface is in my opinion more intuitive than most others.Or you could buy nero for Linux,you would have to buy it for windows anyway, don’t you? ”
I use gnome and refuse to install any KDE libraries or KDE related. It just gives me a really dirty feeling inside. I need something that is neither gnome or KDE specific. I also know that Nero ported their app to Linux, but I don’t want to deal with application breakage whenever I upgrade distributions. The fact that Nero uses such an old version of gtk proves the problem with using Nero. I want something that is integrated into the distro so I can either apt-get or yum away and get the latest and greatest. Basically, I think Linux needs a FireFox, OpenOffice, Thunderbird in the CD/DVD Burning Category and Media Player Category.
"I use gnome and refuse to install any KDE libraries or KDE related. It just gives me a really dirty feeling inside. "
I feel the same way about Qt/KDE. =P Have you tried GnomeBaker?
http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/
I just installed Fedora core 4 and it deleted my windows 98 partition.
I thought the installer was smart, but it isn’t.
It sounds like: “Hey, I fired the gun and it killed my dog! Bad gun …”
Read before trying something new …
So where the heck is the dvd iso file??
From the download page:
For x86-compatible (32-bit): FC4-i386-DVD.iso (sha1sum: 2f151a7329846da685c2a72fcb40eba3e8a355a0)
But it sure isn’t in the iso directory or any other that I can find.
Neither Ubuntu nor Fedora is better than the other. However there are trade offs. Fedora allows you from installation to choose Gnome, KDE, and XFCE as a DE. with Ubuntu you have to choose Ubuntu (Gnome)or Kbuntu (KDE) KDE can be installed on Ubunto but not without some extensive work. On the other hand it’s hard to beat the 16’000 yes, sixteen thousand packages in Debians repository which ubuntu can link to. I run both systems on different computers and cannot deceide on which I like better to me they are equal. Neither one better than the other just different.
If I were you I would personally call RedHat/Fedora and thank them for deleting that partition.
[quote]
So where the heck is the dvd iso file??
From the download page:
For x86-compatible (32-bit): FC4-i386-DVD.iso (sha1sum: 2f151a7329846da685c2a72fcb40eba3e8a355a0)
But it sure isn’t in the iso directory or any other that I can find.[/qoute]
The DVD iso is only available from torrent. See torrents link from fedora webpage
http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/iso/ (100gbit pipe and only 35% of it in use)
“”I use gnome and refuse to install any KDE libraries or KDE related. It just gives me a really dirty feeling inside. ”
Are you retarted?”
Not really, I’m probably even much smarter than you. But getting to the point, the only thing I have against KDE is that I don’t use it. As a personal preference, I don’t like it. But if I did use KDE, I would feel dirty using anything requiring Gnome libraries, Windows libraries, or MacOS X libraries. It just is so dirty to do so.
The kernel on the install CD seems to be broken for many newer machines (it dies almost immediately on 2 of the 3 machines I tried). I’m not the only one, I found this thread:
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=59051
Someone can tell me which version of alsa it uses ?
I need 1.0.9 for my azalia chipset.
Looking at the screenshots it looks very much like ubuntu hoary with the clearlooks theme, which is not a surpise as both are using gnome 2.10
This is what I see looking through the RPM list:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/F…
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/F…
… What ever happened to Red Hat’s development timeline for Fedora? I was told by one of their lead devs (can’t remeber his name ATM) about a year ago that the “Core” phase of Fedora development would end with Release 3. The reason it’s called Core is that the idea was to establish solid core functionality before moving on to higher-level things. Are they simply stretching Core dev out with a 4th release, or have they scaled-back their ambitions?
we are (my teammate) are working on a project for linux embedded system using FC3.. now FC4 is out.. oh my.. they have gone a h e l l porting the app from rh9 to FC3.. does the change in FC4 that different from FC3?
Sad to see that postfix didn’t get any SELinux protection this time around. Hope they include that in FC5. Of course I you could be added by hand, but many admins/users doesn’t have the skills needed.
Other than that, nice to see SELinux take off, with a lot more supported programs in the targeted policy.
I think the biggest change you’ll see from FC3 to FC4 is that FC4 uses GCC4.0, which may or may not cause you problems right now.
Does anyone know if I need to dl all of the disks right away, or can I do a full install with just the first one…actually I just finished reading ALL these posts, and I think I just highlighted one reason to choose Ubuntu of FC4…single disk install.
Does it really use desktop as a menu? I remember hoary did this and it made little or no sense to have that as a heading. Ubuntu wisely changed to “System” and it makes things much more clear. Why desktop? Does this menu serve a different purpose.
On another note:
Has anyone tried out GFS. Very curious about that.
FC is better than Ubuntu to me because it is not source based. I do know that some of you guys like source based stuff more than binary packages, but to me, source based packages are nothing but trouble. Ubuntu doesn’t do what I need it to do, the last version I tried, I downloaded everything with the word mp3 or gstreamer in it, and after three hours, I still couldn’t get a single mp3 to play. That’s not to forget 3 seconds after logging in, it crashes back to the login screen, and that was a fresh install…
…Anyway, no offense to you source guys out there, but a source based OS is too primitive for me. No thanks. Binary OS’s are faster and software installs faster too. Oh, and don’t even get me started on the fact that Ubuntu is just a toned down Debian. No offense, but I feel Debian is the worst OS ever made.
Are you saying that Ubuntu is sourced based? If you are then you are mistaken. Debian/Ubuntu is built with binary packages.
Maybee your confused with Gentoo?
I’m curious Jed what do you feel is so bad ablout Fedora I have tried roughly 100 to 120 Distros Fedora is solidly placed in the top 3 in my opinion. Between the 3 that I think are best I couldn’t tell you which one I actualy perfer they all have their strengths and their weakness’.
It appears this is the point in the thread where people get bored and make moronic statements.
I’m personally not going to waste another 20 minutes answering the same questions I do everytime fedora has a release.
Please people. Install the newest distro before making statements that have been fixed since 1999.
If you want to use one CD go with ubuntu, you can do it on Fedora but that requires checking a box that says “minimal installation” during bootup. I can see how difficult that can be fore some people.. check boxes require extensive thought and vision, hand eye cordination, etc.. just use ubuntu.
Even if you download all the ISO’s no need to waste 5 CD’s burning them. Download the 6MB boot.iso from http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/i…
Keep all the ISO images in a Directory on the partiton that is either FAT32 or ext3. POP the CD boot and when it asks for the location of the dist point it to the directory containing the ISo’s.
FYI my arrangement is c: – > /dev/hda1 ntfs d: – > /dev/hda5 fat32
If you want to use one CD go with ubuntu, you can do it on Fedora but that requires checking a box that says “minimal installation” during bootup. I can see how difficult that can be fore some people.. check boxes require extensive thought and vision, hand eye cordination, etc.. just use ubuntu.
hmmm…it could be difficult if I didn’t want a “minimal” install. I love trying out new releases, but to fairly evaluate a disto I always install more bells and whistles than the minimal. Ubuntu is cool, but I am eager for disk two…three…then four of FC4 to finish dl so I can check it out.
I didn’t know about that! Neat!
Also, 46 and 2, if you only want one medium, you could use the FC4 DVD ISO.
Finalzone:
It is true that many os’s out there do not provide a means for playing all media out of the box, however it is much simpler to install a media player for windows, than for Linux.
If you choose “Personal Computer” install, then anaconda will ask you only for the first 2 CDs.
Which version of media player for Windows? 10 version is spywares magnet compared to 6.4. Problem with installing Windows version (10 in this case)is it requires rebooting which I did not need to do with Fedora.
heres a fyi for any of you that may run into this problem,
if you are installing fedora core release 4 on a dual boot system (one with xp already installed) and after installing Fedora, you get nothing more than a flashing GRUB_ line then try the following:-
insert cd1, and type linux rescue at the prompt
chroot /mnt/sysimage
cd /boot/grub
grub
now you are in grub try the following (assuming a dual boot scenario, with two hdd’s and linux installed on the 2nd hdd)
grub> root (hd1,1)
grub> setup (hd0)
grub> quit
once done, as long as there were no error messages above, try a reboot and hopefull grub will boot the system normally.
cheers
anyweb
ps. the above post is in relation to trying to reinstall grub using the command
grub-install /dev/hdb
which then generates a funky error
/dev/hdb does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
cheers
Fact is, that java is included and mono is left out.
FC4 has a lot of features and new packages.However they should improve they way repositories are handled.I silently hoped for a yum GUI.
“.However they should improve they way repositories are handled.I silently hoped for a yum GUI.”
An updater called pup will available soon to replace the current RHN applet
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-config-list/2005-June/msg0001…
None of the current frontends like yumex seems to have a maintainable code set for use as the default frontend. A good UI would be indeed be a nice thing to have
Now that Fedora supports PPC Apple switches to Intel. Wouldn’t it be funny if AMD starts making PPC chips? Actually, that wouldn’t be funny at all. I have no idea why I added that.
“Now that Fedora supports PPC Apple switches to Intel. Wouldn’t it be funny if AMD starts making PPC chips? Actually, that wouldn’t be funny at all. I have no idea why I added that.”
There are several reasons
People started working on PPC port before the Apple announcement. Users might want to switch over to Fedora/PPC since Apple wont support them anymore. There are other vendors for PPC besides Apple (Example: IBM and Freescale).
Perhaps more importantly,porting to other architectures tends to exposure bugs such as false assumptions in the application which benefits people who use other architectures too
Finalzone:
It is true that many os’s out there do not provide a means for playing all media out of the box, however it is much simpler to install a media player for windows, than for Linux.
I don´t think it is simpler with windows. In Linux just install mplayer (or xine if you like) and xmms (plus xmms-mp3 from your favorite repo). With windows you must install quicktime, realplayer, mediaplayer, XVID, OGG …
In my Fedora (i still use Core 2) i made this with just one command (after adding my favorite rpm repositories DAG, Fresh, AT and news): yum install mplayer xmms xmms-mp3 (5 minutes later everything just worked).
At windows, It takes a lot more time, going over websites, downloading installers, then installing them so they download and install their apps, then looking for XVID, downloading ogg, winamp, realplayer, bsplayer (better them wmp) and so on. I don´t think this is easier then Linux way.
Anyway this was a long ago, since I don´t boot my Windows XP for over a year.
I have an old computer. What’s the hardware requirements for FC4? I’m still using RH9!
I just installed FC4 final this morning. The install went perfectly and I upgraded from Test 3 FC4. Thunderbird, Firefox, Nautilus, Open Office, XFCE4 are all working great. Excellent upgrade.
A brief FYI: we recently certified SciTech SNAP Graphics for Linux on Fedora Core 4. Free download available at: http://my.scitechsoft.com/navigate.php
The release notes linked from the announcement has the details but here we go again
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc4/
Is sound working on G5 now, its been almost 2 years since G5’s were released.
Some nVidia GeForce card users may experience some problems with FC4. There’s a band-aid fix at http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=51972&goto=newpost … A final fix might also be available by the time you read this.
Does anyone know of a guide for Fedora similar to the amazing Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide @ http://www.ubuntuguide.org
?
That’s a great page, dip!
No FC4 FAQ yet, but http://www.fedorafaq.org/
and the new Fedora Install Guide
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/fc4/
I have downloaded FC4 and upgraded my uptodate FC3 installation. It is mostly a disappointing experience and I have to reinstall FC3. The problems: (1) X display became totally screwy at my usual 1152×864 resolution (video card = i815). It worked fine with RH7.3 and FC3. I needed to lower the resolution to 1024×768 and that worked. (2) Sound was working great with RedHat 7.3, sound stopped working with FC3 and FC4. My hope that FC4’s ALSA will support this soundcard (AC97) was dashed. Why doesn’t FC4’s alsa driver work when RH7.3 with the 2.4 kernel’s ossfree driver was working? (3) VMware completely broke. vmware-config.pl compilers the files fine but can’t start vmware service.
I am running an IBM Thinkpad T21 and have also had problems with this release:
Leaving X and cycling with Ctrl-Alt F1-F6 reveals every tty screen is unreadable with blocks of colour;
The screen cannot be locked in GNOME;
Screensavers are broken in GNOME;
The option to open MDBs is missing in OO.org (it is present in the Windows build);
KDE is horrendously slow, even when just resizing Konqueror;
There is a long delay before GNOME’s desktop dropdown menues launch;
GNOME internet configuration cannot recognise USB ports;
Still no Scribus in the desktop/workstation default installs;
With these problems and the probable lack of Beagle in the future, it might be time for me to look to another distro. I wish SuSE/Novell had downloadable ISOs.
Try Enlightenment that a pretty light desktop environment, also can try AfterStep. Enlightenment can be downloaded from http://enlightenment.org/.
Could you provide the full specification of your system?
It seems the problem is related to RAM that you may have not enough. Alternatively, use XFCE or Fluxbox which are available on Extras repository.
Still no Scribus in the desktop/workstation default installs;
Scribus is available on Extras repository (enabled by default)
With these problems and the probable lack of Beagle in the future, it might be time for me to look to another distro.
Remember Fedora is 100% Open Source distros thus don’t expect that distro to ever include patent issues softwares in either core and extras repositories.
Don’t you have better things to do but try to advertise unrelated stuff here.
For starters
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-fc3.shtml
http://linuxreview.net/FedoraInstallGuide/
http://stanton-finley.net/fedora_core_3_installation_notes.html
And these were spit out by GOOGLE.
Go troll someplace else.
This machine had no problems with FC3 or any release prior to that… KDE and GNOME are both functional but slow. My biggest concern is the display going awry when CTL-ALT-Function key cycling.
It is an IBM Thinkpad T21. Full specs are:
Pentium 3 running at 746 MHz
122 Mb of RAM (using 31% with KDE loaded without any apps running)
256 Mb Swap file
9 Gb hard drive
The video display is set to
800 * 600 pixels
75 * 75 DPI
Video Card S3/Savage IX
Any assistance would be much appreciated. I hope this is merely a problem with my machine and not a major issue with Fedora 4.
With regard to Scribus, as has been raised by others on this forum and elsewhere, it is positive to have it in the repositories but really should be part of the default “desktop” and “workstation” installs.
Other significant distros (Mandrake, SuSE, Knoppix, Mepis and so on) all including Scribus in default installation profiels now so I do not understand why Fedora does not. It is a program that is wholly open source, maturing quickly and fills one of the few remaining gaps on the Desktop.