Home > PC-BSD > PC-BSD 0.7.5 Released PC-BSD 0.7.5 Released Adam Scheinberg 2005-06-25 PC-BSD 41 Comments “PC-BSD 0.7.5 was released today! This updated version is now under the BSD license, and adds some new features such as multi-language support and custom partitioning within the GUI.” It also supports the latest Nvidia driver and OpenGL. About The Author Adam Scheinberg Vice President, Information Technology at Massey Services, Inc • President, Board Member, The Mockingbird Foundation • All Things Web, Umphrey’s McGee • Web Developer • Father • Foodie • Music Snob • OS enthusiast Follow me on Twitter @sethadam1 41 Comments 2005-06-25 8:01 pm I wonder which license they had before for a BSD derivate? 2005-06-25 8:02 pm I can’t imagine how PC-BSD will be when the folks release 1.0 2005-06-25 8:05 pm > I wonder which license they had before for a BSD derivate? It was GNU 2005-06-25 8:25 pm It was GPL, not GNU. GNU is no license. 2005-06-25 8:31 pm LOL, yes! 2005-06-25 8:34 pm I wish them the best of luck 2005-06-25 8:48 pm pc-bsd is quite good and very responsive. i would recommend it to anyone. try it out you might be suprised. 2005-06-25 9:23 pm With the exeptions of most of the .pbi software packages and the translations all the work is being done by one (obviously very busy and hard working) developer. If they had already a larger developer base… Well, it may go somewere in the long run. At least they do have a rock solid OS to begin with so its not all uphill… I wish them the best of luck. 2005-06-25 9:36 pm Finally BSD license Thanks I can use it now 2005-06-25 9:59 pm There are far too many UNIX- and UNIX-like systems for x86 desktops and none of them is user-friendly enough, it’s inflationary (Redhat Linux, SuSE Linux, Mandriva Linux, Debian Linux, Ubuntu Linux, Xandros Linux, Linspire Linux, Turbolinux, Mepis Linux, Gentoo Linux, Solaris, OpenSolaris, SchilliX, Darwin, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, DragonflyBSD, PC-BSD, to be continued). Concentrate on a single user-friendly one instead of creating dozens none of which is user-friendly. By the way, prepending the letters “PC” to the name of an operating system does not make turn it into a user-friendly one! 2005-06-25 10:04 pm Try PC-BSD, then we talk. PS: PC-BSD is still beta FWIW 2005-06-25 10:39 pm > Not all of them are trying to be user friendly, dumbass LOL Here’s why PC-BSD is different and it’s not a cheap “distro” http://www.pcbsd.org/?p=project 2005-06-25 11:11 pm Hey, Solaris is user friendly, it’s just picky about who it’s friends are ;} 2005-06-25 11:14 pm why do you keep answering the trolls on anonymizer sites ? this site seriously needs a registration process. btw… to too much, yes, you really should give pc-bsd a try…. it will be a bit different to XP, you know, the ONLY computer system you have experienced in your life, but you will enjoy it . 2005-06-25 11:28 pm OpenBSD is also quite user-friendly It all depends on who the user is 2005-06-26 12:47 am It also supports the latest Nvidia driver and OpenGL. That’s awesome! Now, NVidia just needs to have the FreeBSD driver catch up to the Linux and Solaris driver. It seems like it’s a version behind. I’m still trying to figure how I can install the FreeBSD driver from the ports without any bit of Linux being installed. Seems that even when I disable Linux support, the installation process still wants to install linux-base. Personally, I do not want to have my FreeBSD system tainted with any Linux binaries. In my opinion, if I wanted to run Linux then I’d run Linux. You know what I mean? Anyway, if anyone has the answer to the above problem, then I’m all ears. It might just be some sort of knob that I’m not using. BTW, I’m trying to install the driver to power a GeForce 256 32 MB AGP card. Not the fastest card, but it’s better than nothing I guess. 2005-06-26 1:36 am How well does it deal with NTFS? 2005-06-26 2:04 am that nvidia driver is now the same version as linux 7667. they are good drivers. now i have agp acceleration. i installed them on pcbsd today. good work. 2005-06-26 2:08 am maybe freebsd is what linspire should have used underneath. 2005-06-26 2:41 am I am telling you! This OS rocks!!! I LOVE IT! The startup time on my machine is almost identical to Windows! May be like 5 seconds difference or less. It takes only a few seconds to start. The same applies for the shutting down sequence. Seems like it shuts down quicker then XP. I love the package management. 2005-06-26 3:07 am i agree. with the new nvidia drivers i can play enemy territory at insane frame rates now. its pretty interesting that nvidia just released a new freebsd driver that rocks and apple swithing to intel recently. could there be a connection because osx uses bsd underneath. its all starting to add up. and i like the total. 2005-06-26 4:07 am jake tate suggested that linspire should of used bsd as a base so they could close it up and do what they wanted to do with it…..and got bashed at the linspire site for it… I think they wanted the linux buzzword but I think BSD would of been the best choice…. 2005-06-26 5:23 am i have had linspire membership for two years and with the last release it has loads of sound issues. just think if they used freebsd it would more than likely run alot better. 2005-06-26 5:25 am The nvidia driver for BSD has nothing to do with Apple moving to Intel. The Nvidia driver has been around for ages, it was recently UPDATED (although I’ve had to revert to 1.0.6113 because the new driver kept locking up my system). Besides, Apple uses a different kernel, it’s only the userland that’s based on BSD; the Nvidia driver wouldn’t be compatible. 2005-06-26 7:03 am Check the ports Makefile: make WITHOUT_LINUX=yes Then no need for the linux base, there are a few other options in there as well. 2005-06-26 10:27 am Hello all! I’ve got a question. I would like to try PCBSD, I installed it on my secondary hard drive. After the install I can’t bott into the system. My first hadr drive is 30Gb my second is 120Gb. I’ve read about it, that maybe my disk geometry is not correct. What does it really mean ? How can I correct the disk geometry ? If anybody has answer please send me a mail to email@example.com. Thanks ! 2005-06-26 1:13 pm So, when will it come with Gnome? 2005-06-26 1:45 pm I don’t see myself switching from Ubuntu, but the more choices we get, the better. 2005-06-26 2:25 pm I don’t see any reason to run PC-BSD instead of FreeBSD… 2005-06-26 2:39 pm >I don’t see any reason to run PC-BSD instead of FreeBSD… If you don’t, they you’d better stay with FreeBSD, I guess you don’t mind using the terminal 2005-06-26 2:51 pm “I guess you don’t mind using the terminal” What’s wrong with that? I never tried PC-BSD (and probably nev er will), but I highly doubt that it is a graphical-only OS. 2005-06-26 2:55 pm i will begin working on a GNOME PBI Set in the next 2 weeks, atm im using Vidalinux 1.1 on my Athlon64, but i am d’loading 0.7.5 of PC-BSD as we speak, i had 0.7 on my old Nix box, and created numerous PBI’s for PC-BSD as well as writing a tutorial on their creation, so hopefully my athlon64’s NIC and sounc card are supported. 2005-06-26 3:08 pm “What’s wrong with that? I never tried PC-BSD (and probably nev er will), but I highly doubt that it is a graphical-only OS.” You are correct, it’s not. It´s just FreeBSD with a graphical instaler which configures XF86Config for example (a major head ache for FreeBSD’s newbies) and boots automatically to a KDE desktop. This is done retaining all FreeBSD functionality under the hood. It also has prepackaged, fully self-contained software packages which you can install in a wizard with two or three mouse mouse clicks. (One of those packages brings you the nvidia 3d driver.) If things work for them, when they fnish they will have a very nice fully working desktop with Full FreeBSD underneath. That, i call a powerful OS (if they manage to pull it) 2005-06-26 3:24 pm Impressive how well they have progressed in such a short time.Installing PCBSD is really easy.Only little thing that’s probably missing is an menu entry to easy configure networking instead of having to use /stand/sysinstall or ifconfig yourself,other than that job well done sofar. 2005-06-26 3:59 pm Ohw before i forget to mention.Installing (PCBSD) applications is a matter of double click and entering the root password,when you deal with *pbi (PCBSD native installer) that is,for the rest PCBSD can also install from the FreeBSD portage tree as well. 2005-06-26 5:20 pm I hope this works out, I wanted a user-freindly BSD for a long while, I will just wait for it to mature, brfore trying it. 2005-06-26 5:27 pm I hope this works out, I wanted a user-freindly BSD for a long while, I will just wait for it to mature, brfore trying it. Fair enough. Although i’m quite impressed with this release of PCBSD.Take for example the install of the nvidia-driver.All you have to do is download the nvidia-driver.bpi.gz,gunzip it and double click on the *bpi file.They have the most used apps already converted to the PCBSD native installer format,those apps like OpenOffice 2.0 let themselves install as described above. 2005-06-26 8:02 pm will begin working on a GNOME PBI Set in the next 2 weeks, atm im using Vidalinux 1.1 on my Athlon64, but i am d’loading 0.7.5 of PC-BSD as we speak, i had 0.7 on my old Nix box, and created numerous PBI’s for PC-BSD as well as writing a tutorial on their creation, so hopefully my athlon64’s NIC and sounc card are supported. I hope it will be available in the installer already then, because I am alergic to KDE. Also I hope they will make network configuration easier and part of the installer as well. It should be even greater if they should make the graphical installer available after install, like sysinstall. For me it’s not a big deal to configure networking on the CLI. Actually for me there’s no need for PCBSD at all. Only it should be nice if my friends can install it without needing my help.. :> 2005-06-26 8:20 pm I’ve just visited the PC-BSD web site and had a quick look at the project, and as a FreeBSD user, I’d like to thank the team and encourage them to keep going, this project looks exciting and very promising so far. I have a few questions: 1. It seems that XFree86 was chosen over Xorg – for purely pragmatic reasons, or was that decision influenced by other things? 2. The binary package management appears to be easy to use. How will security updates be handled, will there be a binary patch system, or does the entire recompiled and updated program need to be downloaded and reinstalled? 3. Will PC-BSD’s own package manager somehow collaborate with with FreeBSD’s ports and package system? I mean, when I run e.g. portaudit on a PC-BSD system, will it pick up problems with programs installed with .pbi’s too, how are those packages registered with the system? 4. Will there be an easy way to upgrade to new releases of PC-BSD once they are out? 2005-06-26 8:35 pm There is a discussion on their website for using jailed applications for instantly functional binary apps with all dependencies satisfied. I think the only issue is they will need a patch for the jail to let video and sound out of the jail (and to the appropriate devices). With huge drives commonplace, muliple jails would not be a problem. They plan to use the PBI system for distributing these jailed apps. If they get this working, you would have effectively shrink-wrapped apps that would not interfere with eachother. 2005-06-27 1:59 pm make WITHOUT_LINUX=yes I believe I did try that but make install seemed to still want Linux for some reason. I’ll give it another try though. Perhaps something got fixed in the Makefile since the last time I tried?