Insiders say that the efforts to form a Debian Core Consortium are continuing to go well. One of the purposes of the DCC is to create a common Debian Linux distribution for the enterprise based on the LSB 3.0 and possibly the next version of Progeny’s CL Debian distribution.
This is great news. Hopefully now we will have a few boxed Linux software on the shelves.
I wonder when Debian/Solaris will be started.
Maybe you already read it, but there’s a blog from a Sun guy over at OS Galaxy regarding Debian Solaris.
I wonder when Debian/everything not Linux will be finished
I was using CL linux before switching to Ubuntu. CL is a nice, solid distro. But for a desktop it fell behind as it tracks behind Sarge. It just was not working out for me as a desktop. I am surprised that is a direction they thinking of going in.
Given the past eweek story about Mandrake and DCC which didn’t pan out, and given that Knoppix is based off SID not Sarge, I’d take this with a grain of salt until I see a press release from each participating member.
That being said, I hope something comes out of DCC. Anything that gives more support to the Debian line can only be good.
a debian core consortium but I dont even see debian as a participant…. how does that work?
while this can only leed to good things. i was terribly disapointed to see madrake ,mandriva, (manwhatever it is this week), jump shimp. while i wasnt expecting mandrake to produce a debian based distro it would hav been nice to see them produce a desktop distro with defualt support for .RPM and .DEB. maybe in some sort of a URPMI crossover type set up?
anyways i hope this pans out to something huge for debian.
Isn’t this what User Linux was supposed to be? What ever happened to User Linux? Is it dead?
I think Debian should make the following changes to the way it does things.
Instead of having one release (i.e. Sarge) for every use, then should split it up thusly:
The Debian stable branch should be released as a “Server Release”, and distributions whose target is server functionality should track this.
The Debian testing branch should be released as a “Desktop Release”, and distributions whose target audience is desktop users should track this.
The Debian unstable branch should be released as a “Desktop Beta” release, and distributions who want to be cutting edge should track this.
I think it is plain dumb for a distribution targeting desktops to track the stable branch. In my opinion, if the DCC does this, they will fail because people won’t use distributions that are a year behind everybody else.
well i dont think stable is a year behind but not tooo bad of a idea, considering what everyone else is calling stable these days…
Sarge does this during the installation process. You can select various installation types, from workstation, fileserver, database server, etc.
Having specific branches is unnecessary work.
I like the LSB . It’s way overdue .
So these debian based distros are going to become Linspire knock offs. What about click-n-run?
“I think it is plain dumb for a distribution targeting desktops to track the stable branch. In my opinion, if the DCC does this, they will fail because people won’t use distributions that are a year behind everybody else.”
Really? How old is Windows XP? Yet the entire world uses it on the personal desktop. They aren’t targeting everyday linux users with this, they’re aiming for new corporate users. They want a boxed set of software with tech support.
That’s definitely an idea worth considering, but there’s a few comments. Before Sarge, PHP 4.0 was in Debian Stable even though PHP4.0 was not recommended for production systems due to security issues the PHP 4.1 fixed. So renaming “Stable” as “Server Release” wouldn’t be too accurate.
Also in many corporate environments, you don’t want to upgrade your desktops that often, so Stable might be exactly what they want. Also note that “Testing” doesn’t get security patches, so it’s another reason why they’d shun Testing. So renaming “Testing” as “Desktop Release” wouldn’t be too accurate.
Perhaps it could be renamed as this:
* Debian stable becomes “Enterprise Release” (updated once every 3 years — gets security patches)
* Debian testing becomes “Stabilized Release” (updated once every 1.5 years — gets security patches)
* Debian unstable as “Debian Raw” (always updated. Doesn’t get security patches)
unstable doesnt get security patches but then again everything is so volatile that it gets the newer(est) versions so that takes care of security matters usually…
I dont think anything needs to be changed just “marketed” differently, if anything in debian could be said to be a marketed product!
So no renaming or anything, just good explainations of what each flavor is and some good distribution of testing cds and of course making sure testing isnt broken…. Not have JUST stable as the official release but at least stable and testing official releases….