Submitted by “The Power Mac G5 Quad is, simply, the most powerful Mac workstation to date. Offering four 64-bit 2.5 GHz processors (in a dual dual-core configuration), this top of the line system also sports numerous other improvements in architecture and various components, such as dual independent gigabit Ethernet interfaces, PCI Express and support for the workstation-class Nvidia Quadro FX 4500 512 MB graphics card.”
Suspect theres gonna be a long LONG queue when these hit the second hand market. Sadly I suspect that not many will be sold in the first place … which is a shame.
This is the only Mac I would ever get if I ever got a Mac.
This is the only Mac I would ever get if I ever got a Mac
That’s a bit like saying “If I ever buy a car it’ll be a ferrari”, hopping in your go-cart and peddling away. Sounds tough, looks a bit stupid.
It is because I am in the market for a DCC machine. And so far I have seen only 2 machines worth spending a lot of money on. One is a handbuilt 2 x Opteron 280 setup and the other is an Apple quad Mac setup. The only thing that is nagging me is the lack of SLI support and the FX Quadros from Nvidia can handle SLI and I will need all the horsepower I can get for being as futureproof as is possible. The Mac is nowhere near a Ferrari. I have used other Macs before namely a dual 2 ghz machine which I liked and a 17 inch Powerbook which I hated. It was absolutely slow at Final Cut Pro usage. That is why I said if I ever get a Mac it would be this one because lets face it a Mac is never known for being very very fast if it is based on a G4. Now that these G5 dual cores are out looks like I have more choices available to me.
Final Cut pro is slow on powerbooks. I dont know how people edit on those things.
So right you are. As I found out first hand!
The Mac is nowhere near a Ferrari.
Well to my mind this one is, maybe to you it’s closer to a Porsche ? 😉 Quad core seems pretty high end to me, but maybe I’m behind the times again.
Anyway you’ve peaked my interest now, what the hell do you use a beast like that for, from your explanation I gather it’s some kind of graphics/rendering work ?
Yes we need a rig…just not yet but something like that to do our compositing our video rendering, editing, storage, digital photography work. Right now we are able to slide by without needing a high end rig like the ones I mentioned and if things work out there might be over 3 months worth of globetrotting involved…so with all the footage we gather it may be that we wont need a rig like that until after we get back. So I am tyring to hold out as long as I can before I have to splurge. The rig I want is going to cost well over 13 grand.
Any reason why Suryad?
Are there any mirrors? Server reports error:(
I’m just looking for my desktop machine, And I’m interested in two things only. When will it hit the streets and if Linux will work without a hassle (and 100%) or not. I’m not interested in OSX even a little bit. Seeing 970 SMP setup with NvQuadro made my eyes go bling-bling while rolling without sense of direction.
/*and yes, I’m a PPC fan, and yes, I don’t like OSX, and no I don’t need Intel or Opteron, got already too much of them*/
This is gonna be trouble to decide, Cell or this? Cell or this?… Hopefully Cell will be released sooner and decision will be easier:)
it has hit the streets, but linux support isn’t 100% functional, yellowdog is selling them with YDL installed, but they say that due to the new bridge not all functionality is there yet
“it has hit the streets, but linux support isn’t 100% functional”
I can’t see many pro Photoshop designers or video editing engineers sitting down and saying, “You know what? I think I’ll install Linux on this, that’ll *really* boost my productivity!”
I can’t see many pro Photoshop designers or video editing engineers sitting down and saying, “You know what? I think I’ll install Linux on this, that’ll *really* boost my productivity!”
What now? One can’t ask one honnest and personaly biased question without being bashed by zealots?
Mac users are Photoshop or video only?
Original question was personal and biased, which I think I specified clearly enough for any (even above average) stupid human or animal to understand (clearly not enough for you).
My position of interests is C/S development on PPC (NvQuadro in setup is just a candy on the top of the cream), not Photoshop, I don’t need CMYK and I feel much more comfortable with Gimp. I don’t work with movies. For that little of my OSX needs I already have one G5 (and Photoshop too). This is in fact very reasonable price for two dual-core cpu setup with two (if possible maybe even binded) networks.
In short: I love the PPC, I hate OSX, I can appreciate decent HW setup for decent price.
btw. Now tell me which PS user would benefit from NvQuadro, or two ethernet cards? This computer is a DTP non-sense. 3D yes, coding yes, video, yes if NvQuadro is supported by Video Core. But DTP? You would be better by buying two G5 for much lower price. $5,249 is a bit expensive DTP machine.
In short: Parent answered what I asked. It is your bitchin’ that’s complete non-sense.
It is not Apple’s market to ensure Linux would function on it when it goes out the door. If you want to purchase a fast car and then fit your own engine on it, do not complain when a part is incompatible, that’s your beef; or your engine vendors beef. Linux compatibility will no doubt come soon enough though anyway.
It is not Apple’s market to ensure Linux would function on it when it goes out the door
This is why I asked if it works. If it works, they just sold one unit (or two), if it doesn’t they can keep that unit, I don’t need it.
The only for me non-existant factor here is Apple. I want PPC hardware, not Apple hardware. If that PPC hardware is Apple, well… good for Apple, me…? I don’t care.
Fair enough? Either it works as I need it, or it doesn’t. This is what counts for me. And if it doesn’t work where and how I want it, for me PERSONALLY it doesn’t work (meaning I don’t have a reason to spend money on their hardware).
Don’t understand this wrong. I agree that it is not Apple domain to ensure that their hardware works with Linux. Just as much as it is not my duty to buy Apple if I want PPC hardware (and they don’t expect or force me to buy it either, it would just mean one or two units more than just OSX users, with maybe quite a lot of Linux servers in that setup afterwards).
This is why I asked my completely fair, personal and biased question.
If you want to purchase a fast car and then fit your own engine on it, do not complain when a part is incompatible, that’s your beef
If I’m purchasing a car for the sole purpose of tuning it and exchanging engine. I will check first if this is possible. Instead of buying and bitchin’ how my F1 engine doesn’t fit inside some VW, I simply won’t buy it, but rather buy some Honda or Mitsubishi and suitable machine that “just fits” (and has performance ratings I need) which was designed for that purpose (and for example just recomended by people that already did that, but not designed originaly for that purpose). I think that both, me and car dealer will be happier with this outcome.
And that would be the sole purpose of my asking maybe?
Linux compatibility will no doubt come soon enough though anyway
Usualy there is a lot of competitive hardware around already for much better price at the time when Apple is Linux supported (I’m not from US so here price you pay for Apple is much higher).
Looks like Cell already won /*for me*/. Cell will come out with Linux support by default.
p.s. For example Opteron, NForce are not designed for Linux either. But they are highly recommended proven setup. And they work out hell of a job for me in my computers and all servers I put out. For now I’m using them mostly, while looking for equaly good PPC setup. It is like… Use the hammer that suits and fits you best for the nails you want to use (or you like best, me personally, I’m biased towards PPC. You can say I’m nostalgic in that direction. Opteron really does a hell of a job. I really can’t say performance to be a reason for liking PPC more without saying a lie).
The only for me non-existant factor here is Apple. I want PPC hardware, not Apple hardware. If that PPC hardware is Apple, well… good for Apple, me…? I don’t care.
I think you should have a look at Genesi’s PowerPC machines.
They will release an open Dual 970MP machine early next year.
It won’t be as costly as the PowerMac. And Linux will run fine..
http://www.pegasosppc.com
we arnt given all the specs but the mac seems expensive
I found it interesting, thought others might to..
Dell Precision Workstation 470
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/precn?c=us&cs…
Alienware MJ-12 7550a Workstation
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/mj-12_7550a.aspx?SysCod…
HP xw9300
http://www.hp.com/workstations/pws/xw9300/
When these run OS X be sure to come back and do a performancee comparison. Otherwise, it doesn’t add weight to challenge the article which focuses on OS X and the new Quad PowerMac G5.
Don’t even come close. And tat counts for any of the systems mentioned
I don’t see how useful this is until OSX multi-threading performance improves. So until that point, I think Linux would actually be a very viable alternative.
>For example Opteron, NForce are not designed for >Linux either
Wtf? Refer to AMD’s X86-64.org
mac basher – why can’t you just go start your own thread?
fyi i run linux, windows, and freebsd.
you’re incredibly stupid and a bigot
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Wow, a $3500 proprietary Mac that might keep up with open standars.
Dont you hippies have a rainbow to catch or something?