Amazon requires police to shill surveillance cameras in secret agreement

6 Comments

1. 2019-07-25 8:49 pm

   Poseidon

   Yep, USA does not have a democracy, but a corporatist oligarchic government.
• 2019-07-26 1:51 am

  leech

  And people think Cyberpunk isn’t a thing. One of the staples of the genre is that the corporations rule everything. We’re pretty much there now. We just need the tech to be more common for cybernetics.
• 2019-07-27 7:16 am

  The123king

  The problem with the US government is corporate lobbying. These big corporations only have the power over the government that they have, because every political party is funded by corporations. They donate money to the party that benefits their corporation the most (through tax breaks, deregulation etc), and so the party has an obligation to bend to the corporations will. This is how we end up with the abolition of Net Neutrality, almost pervasive adverts for pharma products, and Times Square just being one big ugly billboard.
• 2019-08-03 3:04 pm

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2. 2019-07-26 5:42 am

   alc1

   All your cameras are belong to us.
3. 2019-07-26 8:27 am

   Alfman verbose=1

   Ring surveillance cameras were always kind of sketchy in my book. You’re dependent on a 3rd party to record and access your own videos, Being dependent on the internet for security is bad, and the starting plans only capture the first several seconds worth of an event rather than continuous as a traditional security camera would do.

   These details about amazon with a portal granting the state access in secret should be alarming, but take a look at it’s terms…

   Ring does not claim ownership of your intellectual property rights in Ring Protect Recordings, Shared Content or Neighbors Recordings (collectively, the “User Recordings”). You own your User Recordings.

   However, by purchasing or using our Products and Services, you give Ring the right, without any compensation or obligation to you, to access and use your User Recordings for the limited purposes of providing Services to you, protecting you, improving our Products and Services, developing new Products and Services, and as otherwise set forth in our Privacy Notice.
   …
   In addition to the rights granted above, you also acknowledge and agree that Ring may access, use, preserve and/or disclose your User Recordings and Shared Content to law enforcement authorities, government officials, and/or third parties, if legally required to do so or if we have a good faith belief that such access, use, preservation or disclosure is reasonably necessary to:

   (a) comply with applicable law, regulation, legal process or reasonable governmental request; (b) enforce these Terms, including investigation of any potential violation thereof; (c) detect, prevent or otherwise address security, fraud or technical issues; or (d) protect the rights, property or safety of Ring, its users, a third party, or the public as required or permitted by law.

   Deleted Content and User Recordings may be stored by Ring in order to comply with certain legal obligations and are not retrievable without a valid court order.

   It’s also self contradictory by stating that you are the owner of your recordings but then goes on to take away your legally implied ownership rights allowing amazon to do what it likes under vague catch-all terms.

   This is exactly why we should never accept “cloud” services as a substitution for products that we actually own and control. The problem for those like me is that the masses who determine where the technical resources go don’t bother fighting corporate information takeover. We’re left fighting against the grain for alternative non-cloud or private cloud options that are becoming marginalized and harder to integrate due to the increase of proprietary devices and service models.