Hello Windows Insiders! Today we are rolling out the first set of updates for several apps that come included as part of Windows 11. The following app updates are rolling out to Windows Insiders in the Dev Channel at first.
Microsoft has updated some of the default Windows applications – Snipping Tool, Calculator, and Mail & Calendar.
Oh excellent. I’ve been waiting ages for this. It’s been distressing and traumatic sitting on the fence about whether to abandon Windows for Linux Mint or shell out £2000-3000+ on new business class laptops just so I can run the next version of Windows and this tipped the deal for me!
Well no not really. Not at all actually.
It reminds me of the Firefox/Chrome browser version naming wars. So can we expect a ‘new’ version of Windows (with a few very minor tweaks) every month? That would us Windows 100 by the end of the decade
I took them 6 years to go from Windows 10 to Windows 11, why do you think that they are going to move to a rapid version model like browsers?
I was being sarcastic. Windows 1`1 is really just another dot point release of Windows 6. Every few years MS decides to change the look and feel for no logical reason. Then they have to release a new version to fix their mistakes.
Windows 10 is arguably inferior to Windows 2000 but uses almost two orders of magnitude more resources. Windows 11 will just be more bloat, even higher hardware needs and probably less functionality.
The truth is, version numbering is meaningless and completely arbitrary. Always. Claiming it’s just a point release of 6 is absolutely equally as arbitrary and meaningless as saying its 11.
You don’t need a $4000 laptop to run windows 11.
For most of you Windows 10 will continue to work just fine. If none of your Hardware can run Windows 11, it means you aren’t in the cutting edge of gaming or content creation or any high performance storage stuff.
This type of ridiculous hyperbole is a fascinating representation of how people can establish emotional connections with stuff like an Operating System.
@javiercero1
What are you even talking about?
If you haven’t bought a PC in the past 5 years, it means you don’t need any of the features in Windows 11, and Windows 10 will serve you just fine.
You have this bizarre level of entitlement. It’s a commercial OS, if you can’t afford it, you’re not the target market. Some of y’all really need to take a step back and realize that establishing emotional connections with something as inhumane as an Operating System is really not that healthy.
Cheers.
I thought the point of having Calculator and Mail to the Windows Store was to divorce the update cycle from the OS update cycle.
The idea of having an app with a different theme from the rest of Windows seems like a bad idea. If I have set up all of Windows in a color scheme I find pleasant, why would I want one application to do things its own way.
Legit question…what EXACTLY does Win 11 offer, other than the fact that 4 out of the 5 systems in my house (including the Ryzen 3 1200 I bought in 2019 from AMD, yes they were still selling the 1200 for budget builders on the AMD website in 2019) can’t run the thing?
I mean so far the only “features” I’ve seen touted, direct storage and DX12 Ultimate, are being backported to win 10 so other than a ripoff of the Mac dock and an even worse start menu what exactly does this do that win 10 don’t? Because every website I’ve read only listed the things being backported or offered vagaries like “security” which considering Microsoft recently digitally signed malware…yeah not really buying the security BS, especially since the sites I read seem to think a TPM is magic and can protect you from pretty much any malware.
So has anybody taken this thing for a spin and seen if it actually does anything other than try to sell new hardware? Normally I would test on a spare system but as I said 4 out of the 5 systems I own aren’t supported and not about to take my main workstation down to alpha test a windows that so far none of my customers seem too keen to switch to. Any thoughts?
In terms of end user experience Windows 10 hasn’t offered me anything compelling since Windows 2000. As a developer it has offered little if anything. It was a much less flaky system combining the usability of Windows 9x with the stability of NT. It re-rengineered networking and priorities so throughput when accessing disk and network at the same improved by an order of magitude. It also provided the latest DirectX. The ICD mechnism provided a way for IHV’s to supply the latest drivers for OpenGL/Vulkan with or without Microsoft cooperating. After Windows 2000, Visual Studio 6, and Office 97 Microsoft went a bit funny in the head. They have developed some good technology and I emphasise some. The rest seems determined by a desire to cement their monopoly or boost careers or score marketing points.
The C++ standards committee lurched off in the wrong direction with templates and is now makig everything just more complicated. C/C++ needs rejigging to a simple core standard which makes more sense. Backwards compatibility for compiler writers is no big deal. I mention this because since Borland went the way of the Dodo along with all the other compiler vendors Visual Studio has been coasting. The WWW committee isn’t much better and we now have multi-megabyte web pages which don’t actually do a lot to justify it.
As for the much touted “security” line Microsoft are taking I simply do not believe them. There aren’t actually that many entry points to a system and almost all of the weaknesses occur at the application level. The vast majority of incidents depend on end users doing something stupid.
Myself I feel Microsoft’s legal exposure is much higher than they would have you believe. Most big business which micorosoft depend on have already factored in ongoing subscriptions (not ownership) and leased hardware for years. The rest of us haven’t. I think there are a lot of regulatory problems with Microsoft as well as consumer law and contract law. A monopoly or dominant market position is nto an excuse to do what you want or take shortcuts. It’s not an excuse to offload costs of retraining or create opportunity loss. There’s also contract law (and it makes sense to bring in “the social contract” too as it’s a helpful explainer).
Microsoft is throwing out a lot of tidbits to keep journalists happy as well as gobby edglords too young to know a world existed before they were born. This is all done on purpose. It’s marketing designed to take your mind off regulatory issues or legal liability issues and the sad fact that the media has changed. Back in the day there were avenues for experts and expert views to be heard and gain influence and the press paid more attention to this. Almost all of this has been dismantled.
I no longer code and my business and personal needs are simple. The peak for performance needed to use everyday applications passed some years ago. I have around half a dozen applications I use. 2-3 regularly. The rest occasionally or rarely. I made sure they were either open source and cross platform or could be supported by Wine on Linux or a VM. All I need now is stability and longevity, and the ability to interact with other people which means adhering to standards.
I don’t like surprises. I don’t click on random links nor do I download software which hasn’t been given a good shakedown. If someone I know sent me a document it would have to be because I was expecting it and I always check with them if they actually sent it. I do not use and have never used Zoom. Whatsapp wasn’t on my phone for very long and came off very fast and there’s lots of other applications I won’t touch. I have no interest in VC funded “just good enough” companies dashing for an IPO. None whatsoever.
As for my phones they are pretty light. I use phones as phones believe it or not. They are a slightly different use case to desktops with some overlap. I aim for application compatibility with the desktop.
MS partners need to sell lot’s more new and expensive hardware. ‘Unfortunately’ for them even a Core 2 with 4GB of RAM runs Windows 10 quite well (and is surprisingly responsive with 8GB of RAM and an SSD). My very modest 2o14 A6 laptop is barely above idle running Windows 10.
MS last tried this stunt when they moved from XP to Vista. Hardware specs increased an order of magnitude for little real change in usability.
If an OS doesn’t offer you any value over your current system, that means you’re not the target market.
Most of the people with old computers will be served by Windows 10 just fine for the next half a decade.
My computers are perfectly servicable and performant for the tasks I want them to do for the rest of my life. That point was passed some years ago and most people including you know this.
So, windows 10 will serve you just fine.
Not a hard point to grasp really.