“Following a decision to release a standalone version of IE7, browser development at Microsoft has come fast and furious. BetaNews this week sat down with Gary Schare, Director of IE Product Management, to discuss the changes coming in IE7, Firefox’s growth, and how Microsoft will bring RSS to the mainstream.”
It’s nice to hear that actual progress is being made to IE. It’s long, long overdue.
However I’ll stick to Firefox. Now that Vista will no longer require IE for updates, I see no need for IE period. They claim to have made major advances in the security, and I sure hope they are true to their word.
I’ve been using alternate browsers since Netscape 3.x Gold and have ridden the wave of success up to Firefox 1.5.0.1. I still plan to use Firefox exclusively.
As much as I’m a *nix fan, I hate to see Microsoft software become pathetic. It actually starts to hurt when you try and make fun of IE, almost like beating a dead horse.
I’ve been using alternate browsers since Netscape 3.x Gold
That’s funny. Back in good old Netscape 3 times IE was rather the alternative browser.
Why do they want to integrate RSS into IE? They are repeating MoFo’s mistake by integrating RSS into the browser instead of the E-Mail client.
Doesn’t make sense at all!
Why do they want to integrate RSS into IE? They are repeating MoFo’s mistake by integrating RSS into the browser instead of the E-Mail client.
Doesn’t make sense at all!
RSS (and other feed formats) isn’t just integrated into the browser. It’s integrated into the platform so that any app can use it via a common API and feed store. IE is the delivery vehicle for it on downlevel platforms like XP.
Vista includes this API and common store, and currently IE and the Windows Calendar takes advantage of it. Other included apps may use it as well, either now or sometime before RTM, but those are two I know of.
Outlook 12 will also include feed support, but currently I believe it doesn’t take advantage of the common API due to when its development started.
What has RSS got to do with email, I find it much easier to have it in my browser
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Microsoft believe that because they are 90% of anything, nothing can be mainstream until *they* do it; 150 Million downloads or not.
That’s why they are slowly losing marketshare and linux keeps growing every single day.
One computer at a time. Grassroots is a beautiful thing.
They talk about rss like it is everything they ever needed! What about webstandards-, css2/3- and SVG-support? Thats what i want to hear about
They talk about rss like it is everything they ever needed! What about webstandards-, css2/3- and SVG-support? Thats what i want to hear about
Go to IE Blog. The info is there.
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie
Well I have the beta of IE7 installed. It would seem to do everything I want except for searching web pages. Find dialoges? How stupid, especially when their search bar makes you think it will search the page…but then boom that crappy find dialog appears.
I’m sure it has more security and has more standards support…but all that doesn’t interest me much. I’ve grown comfortable with Firefox, and this IE doesn’t really give me a reason to change.
As a webdeveloper I desperately pray for better css and javascript standard support in upcoming IE.
Please Lord let it have …
pseudo-class selectors
hover for ALL tags – not just for “A” tags
for example …
tr:hover { background-color: #efe; }
first-child, last-child
ul.tab li { /* only right border */ }
ul.tab li:first-child { /* additional left border */ }
attribute selectors
button[disabled] { /* display different bg image */ }
input[disabled] { /* custom colors */ }
input[type=checkbox] { /* custom margin */ }
child-of selector
div.a > div.b
prototype extensability for HTML-Nodes
HTMLInput.prototype.validate = function() {
// check value with regexp
// return false if value not valid
}
proper event implementation:
Event.currentTarget
and so on
What interessets developers: They want to write simple code and only once – not rss reader integration.
Edited 2006-02-19 19:08
What’s New for CSS in Beta 2 Preview
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/02/02/523679.aspx
“As a webdeveloper I desperately pray for better css and javascript standard support in upcoming IE.
Please Lord let it have …”
Most of the things you summed up are also things I am craving for, including proper implementation of the ‘alt’ and ‘title’ tag (alt tag doesn’t get a popup, or at least title has precedence on alt tag).
However, they already said (IE developer blog) that these kinds of things are not a priority for them. All Css stuff they seme to be doing is cleaning up their current Css implementation somewhat.
Sorry, but it seems you and me are out of luck here
>As much as I’m a *nix fan, I hate to see Microsoft
>software become pathetic. It actually starts to hurt >when you try and make fun of IE, almost like beating >a dead horse.
I suppose you didn’t read their blog. The only pathetic thing about this is you. Misinformation and misdirection does wonders from the linux FUD camp.
Bringing RSS to the mainstream??? Where has this guy been in the last 2 years or so. RSS is in the main stream for quite some time and if MS is the last one to get on I couldn’t care less.
What MS should really be aware of is that users don’t like changes. The ones who have switched to Firefox are probably never going back to IE. That is if Firefox keeps up the quality and steady development cycle. I really couldn’t care less about what MS or Opera are doing when I already have a browser that I like. Why in the world would I give up something that I like for something that I might like? To be honest this same thing goes from IE to Firefox as well. The only reason why Firefox was able to steal users away from IE was the inability of MS to inovate in the browser development and the compete lack of desire to follow trentds and standards. MS is not even close to loosing the first place in the browser wars but it tickles me to see them on the defensive side. Way to go Mozilla.
Oh and as far as IE7 goes, I have the beta 2 installed and the inteface is really hideous. May be nice for blind people and first time computer users but it goes against all principles that MS used to support in previous releases of any software. The file menu is bellow the toolbar … never thought that I’ll see the day MS breaks it’s own rules. Rendering engine is decent but after all it is the interface that you have to deal with every day. But then again who needs options, right?
How can RSS be mainstream when ~90% of the browser market belongs to IE? I’m yet to meet someone who uses IE that has an external RSS reader so the evidence tells me that RSS is definately NOT mainstream.
Like it or not, at this point MS is the most likely entity to bring mainstream to ma and pa. That is what defines mainstream; not bringing it to the geeks.
“”RSS has nothing to do with browsers””
wtf? RSS feeds keep me up to date on the latest news happening at WEB SITES that I frequently visit (with a browser). how the hell can it have nothing to do with the browser?
“”What has RSS got to do with email, I find it much easier to have it in my browser””
I also get ALL my E-MAIL in my browser.
Yes, I’d like to switch to using thunderbird but seeing as I use Windows and Windows has DIED on me numerous times and took all my e-mail (and other stuff) with it when it died, I just can’t trust having all my email downloaded to my local machine.
Neither do I see a particular need for having RSS integrated into my mailclient or my browser. As a matter of fact, I am not using a mailclient anymore, as webmail has eliminated my need to store my data here at home.
As for RSS feeds, I really like http://www.bloglines.com (I am not affiliated with them).
But it is nice for a change, to get less reliant on the local OS and the installed applications.
More of that, please!