“Try KDE is a new resource listing ways that you can try out KDE without commiting to a full GNU/Linux or BSD install. It includes links to live cds, VMware player images and Klik bundles as well as links to KDE desktops available over NX, with explanations of these technologies. It is linked to from the KDE frontpage and will be updated regularly as more resources are discovered. You the community can help us out, by sending your comments and suggestions to the email address listed at the foot of the Try KDE page.”
Nice to see more use of VMWare images rather than LiveCD crap. Desktops available over No eXecute flag.
Nice to see more use of VMWare images rather than LiveCD crap. Desktops available over No eXecute flag.
Not quite,personally i like knoppix when i’m assembling a new PC.
What i would like too see in vmware is a easy button that enables the guest OS to go into promiscuous mode.
> Desktops available over No eXecute flag.
You got something wrong there. This NX is about the accelerated remote access technology from NoMachine: http://www.nomachine.com/
i suppose that because kde and gnome are “collaborating”, that kde wouldn’t mind giving the gnome project a heads-up on this.
i dont mind what de you use, i just like gnome better.
What exactly are you implying?
KDE can put up a site to promote itself, there’s no offence there and no need to give the Gnome developers prior warning. You make it sound like the KDE developers have done something malicious against Gnome.
Frankly I think this is a good thing, people will be able to make more educated decisions when choosing desktop environments if they can try them before hand. It’s my personal opinion that a lot of people have made the wrong choices just because they listened to all the anonymous strangers on the internet rather than choosing based on their own needs.
i suppose that because kde and gnome are “collaborating”, that kde wouldn’t mind giving the gnome project a heads-up on this.
You mean like many Gnome people give KDE a heads-up on what they’re doing a lot of the time?
RE: NX – I know
VMWare images can be modified and those modifications saved, can LiveCD’s save the changes made?
Not yet exactly. Once more livecds make full use of the LiveCD Tools init scripts a livecd will be able to use device-mapper snapshots / unionfs layers and pipe those changes off to alternant media and reload at bootup.
mostly, yes, on a usb stick or harddisk. sometimes you can use the liveCD as a liveUSB and save directly.
sounds great, but it would also be nice if KDE would add the Terminal Konsole program for the folks who like to use the CLI once in a while. this way we don’t have to add it to the main panel. just a small request.
Konsole *does* come with KDE. Are you sure it isn’t listed in a submenu? Many distros even put a shortcut to it on the taskbar by default.
sorry, after reading my own coment i realize i screw up. what i really wanted to say was it would be been nice if Kde would still continue to add the Konsole terminal icon shortcut to the main panel like they used to back then. I still think it is as needed program as much as the other programs on the panel
this type of all-in-one-place resource is really useful. Just last week I had a bunch of buddies over for a poker night, and they all saw my Kubuntu running, which amused them and interested them at the same time. After initially making comments on the “messed up names” for a web browser and other apps; they were all actually thoroughly impressed with amaroK. Which I do admit, I like showing off, since its my favourite application, and beats the crap out of any media player available for windows, IMO. Now I know where to point them, so they can all try it out, however they want. I do believe live CD’s are the easiest and most accessible approach, next to trying it out on someone else’s computer. So it’s important to mention that they are a lot slower than the real thing, as they do on the site.
konsole is packaged with kde, but better yet, just press control+alt+F1-F6, then to go back to your gui, press control+alt+F7
Just to elaborate on this (and to clarify), that’s “control+alt+F1” OR “control+alt+F2” OR “control+alt+F3” OR . . . to go to different console sessions. Usually, there are 6 of them (F1 thru F6) and they are paired up with 6 GUI X sessions (F7 thru F12). Typically, it’s F1 paired with F7 (as the previous poster pointed out), F2 with F8, F3 with F9 and so on. Another user can log onto F2, start X and be running X on F8 while you are running it on F7. The exact syntax that I use is:
startx — :1 (the “1” changes depending on how many you currently have running). I think you can even start new x sessions from within KDE on Kubuntu, I’m not running it right now to check.
For my own usage, I’d agree with you (though I use a shortcut key, not an icon, since my hands are normally on the keyboard when I want a console), but I think KDE as a project is trying to suggest that you can do plenty without accessing the command line.
And if we want to get picky, I think there are a *lot* of defaults they should be changing 🙂
I tried to show KDE to my friends, etc…
The only problem is: when I run into a bug in the first 5 min. of using it, it looks embarrassing. (I ran into a bug while posting this message.)
I go to bugs.kde.org and find that, indeed, other people had the same problem. And, the bug was already “resolved” as “WORKSFORME”.
Ok, I understand that it’s open source, I don’t pay for it, etc. But with such attitude of “Fix it yourself”, I don’t think KDE will be easy to market…
I go to bugs.kde.org and find that, indeed, other people had the same problem. And, the bug was already “resolved” as “WORKSFORME”.
Out of interest, what happened and what bug is it?
Ok, I understand that it’s open source, I don’t pay for it, etc. But with such attitude of “Fix it yourself”, I don’t think KDE will be easy to market…
Not an easy thing to say, but unfortunately true. It’s a question of what is being marketed as KDE. The bug you had could possibly be something in KDE, or it could be a distribution problem which happens quite a bit. Unfortunately, that doesn’t help a user, and it confuses the living daylights out of them. “I’m using KDE, but it’s a distribution problem?!” Not going to work from a marketing point of view.
I go to bugs.kde.org and find that, indeed, other people had the same problem. And, the bug was already “resolved” as “WORKSFORME”.
You should be posting bugs with your distro packager, they’re the ones that compile and sometimes patch KDE against their own library mix. That’s why bugs in KDE can exist in one distro and not others, a reality for every DE. The KDE-maintainers for your distro can evaluate and determine if it’s something they can fix, or escalate directly to KDE.
AFAIK, KDE’s bugzilla should be used for functionality problems or rolling-your-own installs.
Out of interest, what happened and what bug is it?
The most annoying one is this one: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110137
It’s hard to find all of them now, but there is an old example, that seems to be fixed now: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56977
And here, there is a serious bug in Qt. It wasn’t easy to convince the developers that the bug is there… But when I pointed out the exact lines where it occurs, the response was, “It’s been fixed in Qt4”.
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121939