“Following on the heels of the Firefox 2.0 beta in mid-July, Mozilla has released the first 2.0 previews of its Thunderbird email client. Firefox may get most of the attention, thanks to its flashier job, but it is the trusty email reader that conducts most of the killer-app conversations on a daily basis. Let’s see what the new build holds in store.”
One thing I would really love is for SENT messages to be grouped with the RECEIVED messages (of the same subject obviously).
Currently in the threaded view it only groups incoming email, but I’m always curious what my responses are to these emails (because I respond to so many, I forget sometimes!).
I’m currently using the “Save view as a folder” feature to see Sent and Received email together, but you can’t use a threaded view when browsing a “saved view” folder.
Cheers
“One thing I would really love is for SENT messages to be grouped with the RECEIVED messages (of the same subject obviously).”
Personnally, I am always in Bcc of my sent messages. For two reasons : the one you describe, and to know when the message is really processed by the SMTP server.
Sometimes, servers are overloaded, and if a friend asks something “urgent” by e-mail, I will not know about the status of his servers, but I will know about mine.
Just configure your account to copy sent messages to ‘Inbox’ instead of ‘Sent’.
Threaded view not working with saved searches seems to be a bug, though. You should report it.
Same thing with Novell Evolution
Wow, that is one of the best ideas I have heard in a long time.
The notion of “Conversation” implies more then one party (unless you are schizophrenic). So, if you are going back and forth with one person, in the current conversation view it will only show you the messages from the sender, so it’s not exactly a conversation view is it?
I’m a Thunderbird user for quite some time now because of the spam filter functionality.
I’m always running the latest version but the spam filter is getting worser everytime.
Messages that I mark as junk each time still get through the next day.
My installation is about 1 year old now, and I keep marking messages as junk but the junkmail still increases although the filter should be learning.
I’ll try my bets on 2.0 now, Thunderbird is a great application with or without spam filtering.
time to update if its year old, . i myself use Thunderbird an never have a problem with Junk mail filter
Edited 2006-08-03 01:13
Ummm…he’s saying his installation, as in his preference folder, is a year old, not the software itself.
Correct, i’m running 1.5.0.5 at this time.
That’s a joke, right? At least I don’t see anything speciale about either Firefox nor Thunderbird! These are just normal Browser and Email-Client, nothing speciale.
Just being one of the bigger open source mailer, giving a junk filtering option, giving the option to move from the bad copy of MacOS called Windows to MacOS to Linux or to any other supported systems.
Who cares, anyway ?
… why does Mozilla insist on synchronising the version numbering between FF and TB? Unless the two projects really at parity with milestones and maturity it means one of them is given a misleading version number (you can bet that it’s TB). Small gripe, I know, but it damages TB’s credibility.
If the version was for a suite, then it’d be a different matter.
I am sure that the version parity is how related to Marketing, but I also think there is a technical reason for it.
Both FF2 and TB2 will come from the same codebase, from the 1.8.1, and FF3 and TB3 will come from the 1.9 codebase. It might seem like a minor thing, but hey? It’s only versions, most average users don’t understand version numbers (for instance that version 10 of a product does not mean its better then version 2 of another product) and technical users shouldn’t really care what number their Thunderbird is, they should just use. If it really bug you, you can get an extension to change the name of your Thunderbird 2.0 to Thunderbird 1.6.
As a daily Tbird user for both work and personal, I’m looking forward to the new features in 2.0. Openings emails in Tabs would be a godsend.
Showing only “favorite” folders is nice too. But what I would really like is to be able to get rid of the left-pane folder list and have a drop-down box with my favorite folders which would alternatively be accessible via hot-key. That would free up valuable space allowing me needed for the email subject lines and the vertical message pane.
Trading labels for tags doesn’t seem so helpful–most people are only going to use a few select tags as otherwise you spend more time tagging your email than actually reading and doing something about it :-). I do hope they allow you to assign keystrokes to tags. It’s much efficient to press 1-5 for the various labels then to have to click a button on choose a menu entry.
As a daily Tbird user for both work and personal, I’m looking forward to the new features in 2.0. Openings emails in Tabs would be a godsend.
May I ask why? I’ve never felt the need to read more than one message at a time. Just pressing the down arrow to move to the next mail is perfectly sufficient. If, for some reason, I want to have two messages opened at the same time, I would probably want to have them opened [i]simultaneously[i], in which case opening a new window for the other message would be a better solution than clicking on tabs back and forth.
I read more than one message often.
Being a web developer, I’ll often be working with information from one message, and still want to read new messages that come in since they might be “Urgent”. I can do this to some extent, but if a new message contains somethi9ng I want to see full screen, it takes over the window of the other message I am working on. I would rather have it open in a tab so I can close it when I’m done and go back to what I was working on without having to find the message again.
AFAIK, the labels corresponded to IMAP flags stored on the server. Now they will replace labels with tags, but how can one store tags on an IMAP backend?
Edited 2006-08-03 13:35
IMAP allows any arbitrary type of data to be stored as mime. Use an x-attribute and presto. Anything.
I was going to give this a go (hey, I’ve been using Thunderbird since 0.2 or something like that), but the “preview” page says:
“Current users of Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5.0.x should not use Thunderbird 2 Alpha 1.”
Coming from an open source group “should not” suggests “will destroy your data, cancel your email accounts, and eat your cats”. 😉
Guess I’ll wait for the first RCs.
– chrish
Have they added the ability to create/edit a signature file from within Thunderbird yet? Having to create your sig with an external text editor is acceptable if we’re talking about mutt or PINE, but not a GUI mail app intended for typical end-users.
You can create a vCard directly in Thundebird’s account settings.