Submitted by The Ubuntu team announced the release of Ubuntu 6.10, codenamed ‘Edgy Eft’. Highlights for the desktop include GNOME 2.16, Firefox 2.0, OpenOffice.org 2.0.4, Gaim 2.0 and two new applications, F-Spot and Tomboy. This release also features a pre-release of the upcoming LTSP-5, as well as the usual updates of the base system, with GCC 4.1.1, Glibc 2.4 and Linux 2.6.17. There’s a screenshot tour already, while Mark Shuttleworth commented on the news concerning Oracle and Linux. Update: The first review in what will probably become a long list. Update II: Kubuntu 6.10 is released as well.
as well.. http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/?q=node/17
Looking forward to upgrading from 6.06 tonight
I hope the installer is fixed in this new version. Previous versions the installer would lock up. Not sure if that was an amd64 specific thing or not.
It still had that problem for me in the beta, don’t know if they’ve fixed it since. This was on a Core Duo (T2300)
Turns out that the installer is still broken. I’m not sure if its a memory issue or 64 bit issue but it seems like no version of Ubuntu wants to install properly and I always end up downloading the alternate cd.
For the curios, compaq R4000, amd64 2ghz, 256mb ram.
Have they stopped installing non-free drivers by default in this release yet?
No… I guess they value having peoples hardware actually work too much?
No… I guess they value having peoples hardware actually work too much?
Thats a poor excuse for falsely advertising support for Free software while discretely installing non-free drivers without user’s selection.
Non-free kernel drivers are considered illegal by many kernel developers too.
http://www.kroah.com/log/images/ols_2006_keynote_12.jpg
Actually, they are not deselected by default, they are simply there for you to use.
Yes, I understand many consider this to be illegal, however I’d argue that it is better to present the best Linux can be rather than explaining to someone that doesn’t care “your graphics card doesn’t work because we’re license zealots”…
Surely its a better approach to show what it can be, then explain things once they get comfortable?
Either way, you’re not forced to use it, so it doesn’t really effect you. Let me point out however, Ubuntu is the most popular distro right now… why do you think that is?
Although I don’t agree with the parent I had to give one of my votes to help modding him up.
Are we at OSNews (the readers) just too dumb that we have to mod down everything we don’t agree with ?
Gee… get a life, you crazy-modders.
The guy says something, does not offend anyone, does not go off topic, gives no wrong information and still there is some crazy guy out there trying to mod it out of sight just so his ideas are not propagated ?
…
most irritating.
Alexandre Moreira.
PS: Yeah, deep in my heart I know the parents text is not wrong… but hell I want my hardware to behave as I thought it would when I purchased it.
We received our mod schooling at Slashdot.
modded down for trying to be funny… yep, just like Slashdot
Non-free kernel drivers are considered illegal by many kernel developers too.
That’s just FUD. GPL doesn’t not forbid it being used by non-free softwares – I remember (from some book) that distributing object files and allowing them being linked by users themselves (and to choose whether to use GPL’ed lib or not) is enough to workaround the problem.
As far as I know, drivers such as nvidia’s and oss/commercial’s are perfectly legal, thus there is no reason not to install them for users who have problem with your holy open-source counterparts. So those who’re unhappy about this could either try to sue them or STFU and stop scaring people.
I’m an ordinary linux user and I got an on-board via8237 audio chip and nvidia fx5100 card, and a non-branded dvd writer. If I choose to use open-source drivers, I’d have to tolerate high-frequency noises 24hrs a day, and have no 3D or 2D render acceleration, and cannot burn any DVD by use my DVD writer at all.
If that happens, I’d just dump linux and get windows back.
That’s just FUD. GPL doesn’t not forbid it being used by non-free softwares – I remember (from some book) that distributing object files and allowing them being linked by users themselves (and to choose whether to use GPL’ed lib or not) is enough to workaround the problem
There’s no problem in this case, because they’re not distributing the compiled module, and you won’t distribute it either.
As far as I know, drivers such as nvidia’s and oss/commercial’s are perfectly legal, thus there is no reason not to install them for users who have problem with your holy open-source counterparts. So those who’re unhappy about this could either try to sue them or STFU and stop scaring people
Distributing the compiled binaries is illegal. What you say is stupid : people should warn others that there’s a risk of them being sued.
You’d rather these people STFU, that’s sad.
I’m an ordinary linux user and I got an on-board via8237 audio chip and nvidia fx5100 card, and a non-branded dvd writer. If I choose to use open-source drivers, I’d have to tolerate high-frequency noises 24hrs a day, and have no 3D or 2D render acceleration, and cannot burn any DVD by use my DVD writer at all
This is plain FUD !
The high-frequency problem is fixed (AFAIK), there’s 2D acceleration for FX5100 cards and a non-branded DVD writer doesn’t prevent you to burn DVD (there’s just a chance that it won’t be as PnP as it should).
Considering the GPL only concerns redistributed binaries and source, whatever you do on your own computer has absolutely no restrictions unless you start redistributing the code in any form (source or binary).
But a driver is more like an app that use kernel as libraries, rather than derived works from the kernel. You could make another linux-compatible kernel and load the driver as well.
If it’s so, then providing object files is sufficient, because the driver is not bound to kernel and users are free to choose anything that can be linked with it.
Distributing the compiled binaries is illegal. What you say is stupid : people should warn others that there’s a risk of them being sued.
You’d rather these people STFU, that’s sad.
If I’m wrong and the compiled binaries are indeed illegal, why not sue them now to stop this forever? It sounds like those guys are just bluffing (that’s SCO’s style!)
This is plain FUD !
The high-frequency problem is fixed (AFAIK), there’s 2D acceleration for FX5100 cards and a non-branded DVD writer doesn’t prevent you to burn DVD (there’s just a chance that it won’t be as PnP as it should).
1.The high-freq problem is only half-solved: there is still some noise despite of the filter option in mixer (wear headphone, max volume and you’ll hear)
2.nvidia driver: I mean 2D RenderAccel, which is similar to the EXA accel in newer x drivers (not in nv) Also, what about the 3D accel? Are you going to tell nvidia users that they should not play 3d games because the 3d accel driver is evil?
3.My DVD burner gives error with k3b and gnomebaker and all other dvd burning apps that are based on linux’s dvd tools. Only nero works.
The point is not about how much oss projects have done, but why should anyone here use an inferior driver just because it’s oss?
Remember we come for a better OS. If open-source means low-quality softwares, it would never succeed.
If I’m wrong and the compiled binaries are indeed illegal, why not sue them now to stop this forever? It sounds like those guys are just bluffing (that’s SCO’s style!)
Just who is it you think should be doing the suing?
Nvidia? The end users who willingly received the binaries from the packager?
I think it’s time for you to move to some obscure BSD. Looks like Linux is becoming so mainstream that people care more about simplicity and functionnality than licensing…
Have they ever installed them by default? I still need to install nvidia-glx to get the full nvidia-drivers. For ATI it’s the same, have you got any idea what you’re talking about? People get the open-source drivers and it’s quite easy to install the closed source versions, so for the open source purists: the non-free drivers are not installed by default, they are shipped on the cd, but you do have to install them manually (YOUR choice if you want them or not).
Yes, non-free softwares is not installed by default in this release. However, the hardware detection system will detect if you have a piece of hardware that can ONLY function by non-free drivers, and if and only if you have hardware that CANNOT FUNCTION without non-free drivers, will it install non-free drivers. The default installation and on most computers it will not install any non-free drivers.
Yes, non-free softwares is not installed by default in this release. However, the hardware detection system will detect if you have a piece of hardware that can ONLY function by non-free drivers, and if and only if you have hardware that CANNOT FUNCTION without non-free drivers, will it install non-free drivers.
So it still does install non-free drivers. A pity that they havent stopped doing this. For the other person who thinks this is right just because they are popular right now. Let me remind you Windows is much more popular. So thats not a good argument to make.
I have been running the beta and have generally been quite pleased with it. I had two main problems which I managed to solve. I had to manually edit the xorg.conf file to get my flat panel to display at the default 1280×1024 resolution. Also, adding my network laser printer was several weeks of frustration and reading. When I followed the examples they provided with a mouse over of the URI entry field I could never make it work. I finally solved that one on my own.
Anyway, I have been very pleased with “Edgy” so far. I am just about to the point where I can run it instead of XP Pro for my needs.
You mention having an issue getting a network laser printer to work. I had the same problem. I didn’t know what URI to enter.
I discovered that I simply needed to have a client.conf
file in /etc/cups.
It looks like this:
#
###################################################################### ##
# #
# This is the CUPS client configuration file. This file is used to #
# define client-specific parameters, such as the default server or #
# default encryption settings. #
# #
###################################################################### ##
#
# ServerName: the hostname of your server. By default CUPS will use the
# hostname of the system or the value of the CUPS_SERVER environment
# variable. ONLY ONE SERVER NAME MAY BE SPECIFIED AT A TIME. To use
# more than one server you must use a local scheduler with browsing
# and possibly polling.
#
#ServerName myhost.domain.com
ServerName server3.local.net
#
# Encryption: whether or not to use encryption; this depends on having
# the OpenSSL library linked into the CUPS library.
#
# Possible values:
#
# Always – Always use encryption (SSL)
# Never – Never use encryption
# Required – Use TLS encryption upgrade
# IfRequested – Use encryption if the server requests it
#
# The default value is “IfRequested”. This parameter can also be set
# using the CUPS_ENCRYPTION environment variable.
#
#Encryption Always
#Encryption Never
#Encryption Required
#Encryption IfRequested
#
# End of “$Id: client.conf,v 1.9 2005/01/03 19:29:45 mike Exp $”.
#
<snip>
The ServerName option is what maked the printer automagically appear on the client machine.
Hope this is useful.
pook
Anyone know if all the Core 2 Duo issues have been resolved yet in this release?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
Edited 2006-10-26 17:22
To what I see, it seems to be an issue with the Intel i965 chipset… I’ve got a Core 2 Duo (E6300) with an i975 and Ubuntu works flawlessly. I admit the i965 is getting more popular, but it isn’t a showstopper for all C2D users.
I am posting this from my thinkpad T60 work laptop running edgy updated from flight 2 and it works flawlessly. The T60 has core duo processors and Windows actually works with Xen!
I’m currently using PCLinuxOS on 40gig partiton on an 260GB Harddrive in my Laptop. I’ll make more partitions tonight.
Really? I thought laptop hard-drives top out at 160GB.
http://www.physorg.com/news68727854.html
http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/?q=node/18
I haven’t been too impressed with Edgy so far. The boot screen is a nice touch, but this feels very much like an incremental improvement over Dapper. I didn’t have any significant improvements with hardware detection. The i910 on one of my desktops doesn’t work higher than 640×480. My Broadcom 4318 still isn’t detected, and for some reason ndiswrapper isn’t working for me anymore either (it works in Dapper).
Compiz still isn’t integrated in any meaningful way.
Launchd is included, but doesn’t seem to make a big impact at the moment in boot time.
The newer version of Openoffice is included, which adds some nice features, particularly in Impress (aka PowerPoint) where importing multimedia files is now easy.
Network Manager is still not installed by default.
Mark Shuttleworth billed Edgy as a “bleeding-edge” kind of release to follow up the brilliant, stable Dapper Drake. I don’t see any evidence of that.
My verdict: Edgy needs more time in the oven.
launchd is Apple’s bootup system. Ubuntu now uses Upstart, a init system that will be much more flexible and powerful then launchd.
I upgraded from Dapper and found the upgrade required a good bit of manual installing of python related stuff, see bug:
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/python-central/+bug/567…
After upgrading, xorg wouldn’t load any driver (can’t find that bug on launchpad).
I worked around that by using non-free nvidia driver, but then had “disappearing text” problem, see bug:
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-module…
I fixed that by setting: Option “RenderAccel” “0” in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Things work now. However, so far Edgy is quite disappointing compared to the polish of previous releases from Ubuntu.
That’s sad. Disabling RenderAccel would make x compositing unusable.. That’s a big feature in nvidia driver. (it’s probably much better than all the EXA ones)
So half the people here are complaining that Edgy isn’t bleeding edge enough (only a minor upgrade), half are complaining about things not working out of the box (too edgy?), and there are competing complaints about including/not including non-free stuff. Great, how am I supposed to figure out whether to upgrade now or wait?
Upgrade it…
Use it…
…
Then you will find out if it is worth upgrading or not…
Oh wait! I think I can see some downside in this technique… but I can’t quite figure what…
…
…
Oh bummer!
1. I heard boot up time has improved…
2. I heard X engine has improved
3. Rest are some basic application upgrades!
Need to know what they have for Ubuntu version 7
Next version is 7.04 (year, month – 6-month cycle).
If you don’t need the long-term commercial support of Dapper and would like to have newer apps than you might want to upgrade.
I am running Dapper. I have installed Firefox 2.0 in my home directory. I have also installed the new charts build of OOo. I don’t use Evolution, I use Thunderbird instead. I am running on a desktop so I am not to worried about reboot times.
So all in all I don’t see any need to to update now, I’ll see how 7.04 turns out and maybe run with that.
i guess i hafta commend the ubuntu teem for making linux famous. i really cant stand the distro myself and would almost rather support windows xp on clients computers. though i get asked daily what i think of ubuntu, its just MILES from my cup of tea.
some of your guys comments make me think you too should also look at running a distro outside of ubuntu, anything from debian pure to gentoo.
anyways good luck, and keep up the… work, ubuntu team.
Because is not detecting my monitor a 19″ Acer 1440*900.
Freespire, Mephis and Windows XP had no problems detecting it out of the box, I can’t say the same about Ubuntu sadly.
Mepis 6.0 IS Ubuntu … so this is mighty strange…
yes, I know, that is what it makes it weird, Mephis detected my monitor but it wasn’t able to keep the settings, I mean, I needed to change the resolution manually everytime I rebooted, but at lest i could do that.
I noticed someone said something about that ol’ Broadcom chipset. Did they get that fixed on this release? I had to go back to 5.10…and frankly I’d like to upgrade. What’s the story on Network Manager?
NetworkManager is still in universe…
Look for this to be one of the new things with Feisty though…
good job !
metalinks (http://www.metalinker.org/) available from http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/
The Xubuntu team has also released Xubuntu 6.10
http://www.xubuntu.org/get
Note, however, they recommend against using dist-upgrade to update your system- something (gtk?) about Xubuntu’s setup is apparently causing the installer to remove all kinds of GTK apps rather than update them.
Which is really odd considering that it only affects Xubuntu, and the Xubuntu team presumably tested the upgrade….
Edited 2006-10-26 22:39
im waiting for the worst bugs to get fixed before im updating
I managed to catch the release update on the Ubuntu website this morning (early), and also the download page being updated to include 6.10.
I was able to download the 64 bit version in about 45 minutes this morning, and had a completely successful install on my new Dell E520 with the Pentium D processor. It detected the dual core CPU and is running just fine.
Good job team Ubuntu!
http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/?q=node/19
Yes, we’re celebrating the release of the new x/k/Ubuntu but with all of the press over the last day or so, should Oracle acquire Canonical or any assets related to the Ubunutu project, then Ubuntu will be a flash in the pan and history.
Ahhh…but there’s always Slackware! We can’t be bought!! 🙂
Duh, I was wondering :/
Kochise
it seems to be a far snappier system than 6.06, although I am not sure if that is because of improvements in gnome, or in ubuntu.
I am happy with it, at the minute…. but I have only been using it for a few hours, I will need more time to decide.
BUT, for the undecided out there, go for it, I had no problems during/after the upgrade, everything is working sweetly, and best of all…. it is quick
This release seems to be incremental and not major.
I am quite happy with Dapper
I have been with Ubuntu since it’s first release, some 18 months ago. Having “toyed” with linux previous to that, I realize it will require a “tweak or two” to gets things running. I find nothing wrong with that, on the contrary, install windows and “belly-ache” about the restrictiveness of the OS.
Is the glass half full, or half empty? Too many choices or not enough? Licensing or Open Source? Breaches in security, or a quick response to security issues?
I just don’t get it, stick with MS if you want to “stroll”, install linux for the “ride” of your life. But by all means, take the time and learn, invest in your OS. Nothing is “free.”
Edgy is another success for Canonical, keep it up!
Cheers!
Ubuntu is still king of the hill.Any distro with a crippled or broken update manager is useless.
edgy efts apt-get and synaptic work great and the repository is consistent even with multiverse enabled.
I think kde3.5.5 is pretty much edgy.
kudos to all who have contributed to this great release.
I am using the ATI fglrx driver and the dist-upgrade procedure changed my xorg.conf to try to use the ati driver. After manually changing the xorg.conf driver setting back to fglrx, it seems to be working properly. I haven’t had a chance to do anything but verify that I can boot into gnome though.