KDE 3.1 is out, announcement here, the source packages are linked on the 3.1 info page, and are also available in stable/3.1 directory on the KDE FTP site.
KDE 3.1 is Released
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Eugenia Loli
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It’s been hinging on both the release of KDE 3.1 and the new XFree release.
Yoper’s time is near! 8)=
WOOHOO!!! My xmas present is a bit late, though.
If you had waited for the announcement.
No, I won’t. From the moment the files are available on the *public* FTP sites, that’s enough incentive for me to do the article. When the announcement is out, I might update the story and link to it. But I won’t wait for the announcement.
It is KDE’s job to make sure that announcement and program release happen at the same time. Red Hat does it the right way. They lock the ftp directory (on all of their mirrors) and they only unlock them when the announcement is out.
BTW, I don’t believe there is a problem, the KDE front page is not updated yet simply because the guy who takes care of it hasn’t got around it yet. The FTP mirrors all look ready.
eugenia, you made this mistake to many times now! wait for the official announcement next time!!!
No, I will not. For me, it is not a mistake. This is why I will continue doing it. If it is a mistake, it is KDE’s.
I explained how Red Hat does it. All they have to do is follow that strategy as well, and I will make sure I will comply. But as it is now, having new files on public files, it gives me the right to report on it whenever I want. That’s the reality and stop complaining.
Further such off topic comments will be modded down.
Call me crazy, but I like that OSNews tells us when stuff like this becomes available. A day from now, it will be all over slashdot and newsforge, and it will be very difficult accessing the ftp servers. I like being able to try stuff like this out, and its much easier to spend a few minutes downloading rather than a few hours.
Hey, if you don’t like the idea of downloading the files before the announcement, then don’t. It’s not as if the files only exist on the FTP; they are *linked* on the 3.1 Info page!
Well, I’m pleased to hear this. I just hope Redhat won’t have screwed up rpms– a bunch of stuff for KDE was still broken in the 3.05a rpms. It’ll be interesting to see which distro has rpms for this first on the KDE pages.
I have been sooo waiting for KDE 3.1
It had been inofficially announced at http://dot.kde.org/1043423702/1043510708/1043599546/ already anyway.
Screenshots look very nice.
I really wish people would wait before they swamp the KDE folks. If you go to their main page, and hit the “download stable” link, it still points to 3.1RC5. Also, on the dot, they mention that they’re still ironing out server issues (as of last night).
That doesn’t mean I didn’t download it, but still, everyone should wait until the KDE folks have made their announcements.
That doesn’t mean I didn’t download it, but still, everyone should wait until the KDE folks have made their announcements.
Yeah, at least until I have downloaded it, too! *grin*
(Just kidding, I’m a happy XP user :-))
NOM
monty
As you are already at it.. this is the announcement: http://www.kde.org/info/3.1.html (not linked from the front page yet)
I recently switched from Gnome 2.0 to KDE 3.03, just got tired of the lack of features and slowness. What new features have been added to 3.1 that 3.03 doesn’t have? I am still playing around with 3.03. 🙂
very cool
good job KDE team
Thanks
-Nex6
Since KDE Team didn’t made a comment about what will be improved in this 3.1.0 (Final?) —- anyone who installed it knows what have changed or debuged ?
http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde310shots.html
They shed some light on the new features.
The best Desktop at its best!
I’d definitely recommend that everyone currently using KDE 3.0.x upgrade to KDE 3.1. I’ve been using KDE 3.1RC6 and other than it just looking better than 3.0, it has a number of bigger improvements:
* It’s faster–Noticeably faster in every aspect than 3.0
* Konqueror is much better–tabbed browsing being my favorite improvement
* Um…<got to goto class now so I’ll cut this short>It looks better.
So upgrade now.
Personally, I really like how you post everything SO quickly! You update the site so often and as soon as something comes up I can be sure that OSNews will have it…I don’t have to search all around myself to find the information…it’s all here!
Thanks!
Jonathan
Read the change log: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_0_5to3_1.htm…
The screenshoot shows the fonts it is not antialias. Same default as the old one. I think they should make the default
same as RedHat from user to root. Long way to go.
> The screenshoot shows the fonts it is not antialias. Same default as the old one. I think they should make the default same as RedHat from user to root. Long way to go.
Duh. KDE does support AntiAlias. In fact, by default on the KDE 3.1 is AA and it does support XFT2 as found in Red Hat’s desktop.
It is just that the person who did the shots had AA off.
This is why marketing is important – even for OSS projects. KDE has on its site screenshots of the whoever guy who happen to tweak things and then he “donates” his shots and KDE project puts them online. And this is ofcourse wrong, because the defaults settings are the ones that it should be showing as official screenshots.
Otherwise, you have people like onyo up there, misunderstaning things.
I just spent the weekend compiling KDE 3.1 RC6. Oh well, I use WindowMaker mainly anyway.
I am a Gnome user I have to admit, this is not a KDE bashing post. Most of the reason I have clinged to Gnome with my YDL install is that, it looked the most polished the images and the whole interface looked fairly professional. Back when I first started using Gnome, KDE look very unpolished I could make it look nice but as soon as I would open the control panel the ugly unpolished icons and images threw me off again, I use OS X as well so you can understand me being a bit picky. Anyways after downloading and Installing this latest release I think I’m gonna be using KDE a lot more, it seems they have finally pulled their socks up and delivered something that looks very well polished and professional, it’s not about Icons and themed windows because those have been changed, but the small things like the Splash Screen, the new wizards, the tabbed browser, the open and save dialogs.
Great job KDE, now I wonder how Gnome will counter such a great release.
Porn for geeks (just with fonts and AA)!
C’mon, baby, you knooow how I like my Keramik (apologies to the Big Bopper).
I did not misunderstand the screenshot. I knoww that kde support AA. But I am just want to say that they should have shown the better. The gnome latest screeenshot are all AA.
While all of you are whining all about some stupid anouncement. Then you are more ignorent and dumber than you think. The point of this website is to inform about these kind of releases even if the official website doesn’t have their own press release. I for one have been waiting to find out when KDE 3.1 finaly comes out and this just made my day. If you look in the screenshot section the some new images are posted and they look awsome.
P.S. If you don’t like finding out about things like this even before the official anouncement then just don’t read this stuff. It is for people who actually want to know rather than slander someone for some good info.
that new mini putt game (kolf)!!!! arghhhhhhh
> Great job KDE, now I wonder how Gnome will
> counter such a great release.
They could start with something as simple as a ‘Fileselector’ and then they could finish with all the remaining ‘left half’ programms and integrate them better finally a ‘snap to grid’ feature may be interesting too.
KDE 3.1 does look like a VERY comprehensive and universal desktop environment, features like : tabbed konqurer, Kate & streamlined file selector are clearly superiour Gnome, yet by looking at those screenshots I remember why I installed Gnome in the first place.
Gnome 2.2 Final should be out soon though they are way beyond their schedule so RC2 could be tomorrow, next week or even next month. I’m just picky, Gnome2 does it for me and what some may call “featureless” I call “clean and simple”.
Kudos to the KDE team for yet another great release though, and for the love of god don’t let any kde vs. gnome flamewar start, for once.
I just hate AA.
Thats why i didnt put it on the screenies.
q
You say is it faster. Will this mean people with slower comps will also be able to run it?
Does anyone know what the actual system requirements are for KDE 3.1?
Thanks in advance.
I think I’m the only one here who doesn’t like the screenshots. I’ve always found KDE to be more functional and usable than GNOME, and its ironic that KDE used to have a reputation for looking grey and boring back when GNOME was the king of themeability.
Now, things have changed – since the advent of KDE-look, KDE has never looked less sober or more toy-like. Why can’t the default theme be a nice, suble, flat theme rather than all of this loud, faux glass stuff?
I used to like the keramik theme, but those big fragile buttons mixed with those breakable glass Icons make it all a bit too much.
To say the truth, my KDE 3.1 CVS looks like Windows 2000, same background, same KWin Theme, same color of the Widgets and I like it that way.
Here is an interesting discussion regarding the bloated trash can menu and the filemanager menu on KDE. It compares some elements of BeOS to KDE’s.
http://lists.kde.org/?t=104359896500003&r=1&w=2
Waldo did the work for the “trash can” and now it looks much better:
http://www.kudling.de/kde_beos_trash2.png
However the change is on KDE-CVS, not on KDE 3.1.
>I just hate AA. Thats why i didnt put it on the screenies.
This does not justify KDE’s decision to put up your screenshots, when they do not resemble the defaults. It was not appropriate to put up these shots in that way, when people are looking for them.
I would suggest you create a new user account, load KDE in it in its default status and then make new screenshots for the people to see.
AA fonts are not default here.
Must be Distro specific thing.
q
just upgraded using the debian-packages, everything went fine! I just encountered some crashs of konqueror, but I use mozilla anyway.
But I feel this could really change the Linux-Desktop Issues and maybe even make some windows-purists envious. I really enjoy it, keep up the good work! Pha, and IE, take that: nearly every other browser does already tabbing – die you bastard!
>AA fonts are not default here. Must be Distro specific thing.
Yes, for a screenshot for any DE, I would recommend either Red Hat, Mandrake or SuSE because these are the more successful distros with most users around… It is on KDE’s interest to look as “modern” as possible on these shots, as these shots are its “marketing” at the end of the day. They should be taken care of carefully, many people are asking for them, especially now that this release will make the round on the web.
> I just encountered some crashs of konqueror…
>everything went fine!
Then, it did not go fine. Konqueror is the main app on KDE, and if it crashes for you consistently, then it is not “fine”. It is a major problem IMO.
Since I haven’t used KDE 3.1 I can’t comment on anything else, but I’ve got to say, Keramic and Crystal are absolutely hideous.
Hey chris, how did you install the debs? I have them all downloaded into one directory and have added them to sources.list; Is this enough?
apt-get install kdebase
Help appreciated.. What was that Konqueror problem?
OSNews seems pretty slashdotted….
My KDE download was only at 15K s-1; not yet hit by /. I guess though.
Will these 2 be included in KDE 3.1? I really hope so, crystal is not complete enough yet… Also, I really like the High Color theme, it looks very proffesional and IMO is more usable than the other themes and fits in witha ny program, motif, gnome etc. Please include it as the default if it is not included. I like clean and simple.
Why did you include the crappy Qt Windows Qt that and Qt this themes, they really do suck. Include HIGH COLOR ICONS AND THEME!
Yes, we were out of bandwidth 2 hours ago. It works perfectly now. Our server could handle the load perfectly, but our connection is not as fast. You can see it yourself here:
http://66.181.171.71/2/42699/1/
>Keramic and Crystal are absolutely hideous.
The Crystal icons are actually pretty nice. Keramik IS hideous indeed though.
I personally tend to like the high performance liquid theme from mosfet over the keramik theme. now that mosfet updated it again for kde 3.1 and newer.
Comparing to Liquid, I prefer Keramik. 😉
I really dislike Liquid…
Heh yeah, that is definately personal taste. I think that Liquid and Keramik are one of the best Themes for KDE so far besides the plain Windows 2000 look that I’m using
I never thought I’d like a theme as colorful as Keramik, but it’s growing on me.
At the very least, the KDE 3.1 default setup is far superior to what many distributions have. SuSE’s window decoration gets uglier with every release.
Congrats to the KDE team, and to us KDE users =)
does anybody if some work will be done to get some redhat binaries out?
Right now, I’m running RC6, and here are some things I think need to be cleaned up in future KDE releases.
1) The menus. This is number one. I used to be a big fan of context menus. But KDE’s basically replicate the toolbar. The context menu is supposed to be an object-oriented quick action menu. The Konqueror context menu has 16 entries ranging from navigation to security settings. Only five of them are necessary. Navigation, for example, is entirely unnecessary because newbie users will use the icons, and experts will use the shortcut keys. In a similar vien, the toolbars need de-cluttering. Microsoft has cluttered toolbars too, but that doesn’t make it right. KWord has *five* toolbars. Two is pushing it, five is just insane. Ideally, for complex applications, there should be one fixed menubar for *important* functions and one dynamic menubar holding recently used actions. KDE menubars are *completely* customizable, so its fine for the defaults to lean towards simplicity.
2) Noatun needs help. It’s better than it used to be, but it’s still screwy. It takes a long time to start up, the playlist chokes once you hit several hundred songs, and there are still annoying bugs (like switching playlists can lead to a crash). aRtsd could use some serious optimization as well. It takes nearly 10% of my 2GHz CPU to play an MP3.
3) The system needs more flat themes. dotNET is a nice, fast, flat theme, but is not even in kdelibs anymore (it’s in kdeaddons) and I’m not sure if there is any ongoing work on it. While the KDE theme situation is better than GNOMEs (where all the major engines look similar) it needs some good GNOME-like flat themes.
4) Some redraw optimizations need to be done. Konqueror is much faster in 3.1, but some work still needs to be done. Konqueror is pretty good about not showing half-constructed pages, but it seems to be more of a function of KHTML’s raw speed than any cleverness in the design. Complex pages will still sometimes be constructed as they are being displayed, and switching to a new page will sometimes leave half of the old page visible for a second until the new one redraws. The ideal to shoot for seems to be Qt designer. In Qt 3.1, the designer UI is full of dozens of complex widgets, and resizes with *zero* rubber banding or redraw, even when using a complex theme like liquid. Thus, it seems it is not a function of Qt’s speed, but rather individual applications. One especially irritating example of this is the delay between when a window is resized and when the menu gradient catches up to the new size. Ultimately, what I’d like to see is some OS X style synchronization between redraw and resize, where the window frame get’s bigger in increments and doesn’t rush ahead of the redraw rate of the app. In OS X, this can be irritating (because Quartz is so glacially slow) but redraw rate doesn’t seem to be a problem with KDE, so this effect would lend some needed polish to the UI.
5) Bigger icons, and the nifty OS X icon zoom effect. I run at 1600×1200 on a 15″ screen, and the 16×16 menu icons are just plain dinky. I’ve been able to change the toolbar icon sizes, but not the menu icon sizes.
>This does not justify KDE’s decision to put up your screenshots (…)
There is no such think as “KDE’s decision” since there are only individuals mostly spending their free time contributing to KDE. KDE is a true meritocracy and rather lacks more support than that there’s a need to cut out useful help. You apparently already frequent http://lists.kde.org/ so you could easily join us at http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-www and give a better presentation a voice.
Cheers.
>I run at 1600×1200 on a 15″ screen
Duh. Whoever sold you that laptop, should have been including a 16″ high quality LCD, and not a 15″. 1600×1200 on that size is really small.
>There is no such think as “KDE’s decision” since there are only individuals mostly spending their free time contributing to KDE.
There is always a person responsible for the PR, other for the releases, other for the web site. The person who decided to put these shots online, he should have evaluated the situation better and make better decisions.
I agree with most of your points, please contribute them to http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-usability
Cheers.
“SuSE’s window decoration gets uglier with every release.” – Eike Hein
I have no idea what you are talking about, I prefer SuSE’s latest window decoration to Keramik. It is not bulky, it is attractive and stylish.
Screenshots of SuSE 8.1:
http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=4030-1.jpg
http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=3886-2.png
http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=3886-1.png
I think the window decoration is beautiful.
>There is always a person responsible for the PR, other for the releases, other for the web site. The person who decided to put these shots online, he should have evaluated the situation better and make better decisions.
You won’t believe it, there actually isn’t. We are currently working on a kde.org redesign and it was unclear for nearly two months who is actually responsible for all the stuff there. Now the one who contributed and organized the most took the responsibility to finish the work, but I’m pretty sure that after that it will become unclear again who’s “the” person responsible for everything. While what you are implying might be true for other projects it certainly isn’t true for KDE.
>but I’m pretty sure that after that it will become unclear again who’s “the” person responsible for everything
For the specific matter we discuss here, it is not just the webpage person who is responsible. The people who do the PRs for KDE and any marketing for it (I think there was a company formed about this IIRC), both need to decide what goes where and when. Screenshots is a lot about marketing, so this “department” of KDE needs to have a say too.
> I have no idea what you are talking about, I prefer SuSE’s latest window decoration to Keramik. It is not bulky, it is attractive and stylish.
A matter of taste. I think it looks horrible.
I’d have to say of late, KDE beats Windows XP hands down.
It’s just so customisable and ‘fresh’, and if you compile it right, a lot faster.
I use SuSE, and I really much prefer bluecurve. I wish KDE could have chose bluecurve as the default.
Anyway I am growing sick of thses candy colors.
I will agree with you that the SuSE window decoration is better than Keramic.
>For the specific matter we discuss here, it is not just the webpage person who is responsible. The people who do the PRs for KDE and any marketing for it (I think there was a company formed about this IIRC), both need to decide what goes where and when. Screenshots is a lot about marketing, so this “department” of KDE needs to have a say too.
I guess you don’t really look onto those KDE mailing lists. Usually it goes this way: the people who want to contribute or change something announce it on the respective mailing list. As soon as there is more or less a common agreement or the discussion got stuck other related people and mailing lists are CC’ed for more input. Most of the time there’s not much additional input so the discussions either die off or lead to prompt changes (just like the trash can point someone contributed in such a constructive way that there was full agreement that there’s a need to change it).
As I said KDE is a true meritocracy, contribute constructive points and/or code at the right places an “big problems” will vanish quickly.
As for the “company” you mentioned before: it’s usually only used for refunding eg. travel expenses of KDE representations at exhibitions etc., the don’t have any actual say, that’s why you don’t hear anything from and about them.
That was me again, not an obscure “Anonymous”.
Even though the oficcial announcement hasn’t been made yet, it has been available to gentoo users for several hours now. I started the compile about two hours ago, so far so good.
Actually, a lot of new laptops come with these types of screens. They’re absolutely incredible. Text looks awesome. WinXP seems to have a little trouble scaling, but KDE (once you start X with — -dpi 133) scales just great, except the menu icons.
Eugenia you dont understand how an open src project like KDE works.
We are not a company,We dont have PR departments etc:)
The web maintainer is the author of Kate, the screenies before 3.1 were made by the author of the game Atlantik and so on.People who develop KDE try to promote it.
We are not perfect and no AA on screenies is by far the smallest problem that KDE has:)
q
>Eugenia you dont understand how an open src project like KDE works.
I think you make a few wrong assumptions.
>We are not a company,We dont have PR departments etc:)
KDE _does_ press releases. the person who does those, should also have a say on these “marketing” matters. See the quotes. I am not talking about real marketing dpts. But for people with specific responsibilities.
KDE 3.2 is going to have an icon render engine (or however to call it =P) using SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) which will allow you to scale icons to get the size which fits best for you. The icon set “Crystal” which is default in KDE 3.1 is already mostly created from SVG files.
Definitelly something to look forward to imo. =)
KDE 3.2 is going to have an icon render engine (or however to call it =P) using SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) which will allow you to scale icons to get the size which fits best for you. The icon set “Crystal” which is default in KDE 3.1 is already mostly created from SVG files.
Definitelly a feature I’m looking forward to. =)
First of all sorry for the double post…
>KDE _does_ press releases. the person who does those, should also have a say on these “marketing” matters. See the quotes. I am not talking about real marketing dpts. But for people with specific responsibilities.
Of course “KDE publish press releases” otherwise you’d be the only one telling the public that there is a new KDE version since the rest won’t report it unless there is a press release.
Well, I think you should be able to guess it yourself, press releases are mostly done by those who are responsible for a particular project goal. Eg. the KDE 3.1 press release will be most likely be done or at least approved by Dirk Müller who is the elected manager to organize any KDE 3.0.x and 3.1.x release. This way every single project has (or rather should have) its own project manager who feels a certain amount of responsibility.
Cheers.
To anybody involved involved with the development of KDE I just want to say GREAT WORK!
Eugenia can you stop trolling? I don’t think you’re in any position to tell KDE what they are or what to do.
Thanks.
LOL Raynier, I don’t think I could even see those icons at all on a 15″ screen at 1600 x 1200, with my eyes!
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.1.html
http://promo.kde.org/3.1/feature_guide.php
I really think the story should be updated or another posted including above, the screenshot page, the requirements listing and the detailed changelog.
Does anyone knows any mirrors that is at least faster than 10kbps?
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3) The system needs more flat themes. dotNET is a nice, fast, flat theme, but is not even in kdelibs anymore (it’s in kdeaddons) and I’m not sure if there is any ongoing work on it. While the KDE theme situation is better than GNOMEs (where all the major engines look similar) it needs some good GNOME-like flat themes.
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Have you tried KDE-Look.org ? Look up Qinix style.
Here’s a screen shot.
http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=2306-1.png
http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=2306-2.png
If you are running MDK 9.0 then TexStar provides a *.rpm for it in his ftp site.
There are many flat themes for KDE. Including the two variants of Light Style, as well as the KDE 2.x default theme. There’s also B3. And the Qnix theme, too.
I don’t know how the official policy is for the KDE team but flooding the main FTP before mirrors can get the latest version is bad mojo. 😐
I am a KDE user, I love it. It is the best. I wish RedHat will also join them.
I’ve been using RC6 for a couple days now and I’ve just got to hand it to the KDE people for delivering the first decent desktop experience I’ve ever had on Linux. Sure it’s a little slow here and there, even on this beast of a system I have, but overall I’d say its snappy, looks good, feels good, and has just about all the functionality I’d need.
Here’s my screenshot (286Kb):
http://home.earthlink.net/~agildehaus/snapshot.png
Using the Crystal icon set with the old KDE 3.0 windowing and KDE 3.1 colors (slightly modified). I’ve uploaded my theme to androo.ktheme, in the same directory as the screenshot above. I -hate- the default look of KDE 3.1 … but the Crystal icons are GREAT and the theme can be changed
For some reason, I see no need to download Mozilla. Konqueror 3.1 has replaced Mozilla as my default browser on Linux. KMail is probably my favorite graphical email client on any OS. I appreciate the integration KDE has with VNC. My only complaint would have to be with NoAtun … I’m sorry, but it stinks
Again, great job! Looking forward to 3.2.
WORLD DOMINATION
nobody can stop linux on the desktop now
i’ve been using 3.1 betas since the rc1 and is avery cool big piece of code 
Not just world domination. Even the wanna like competing other desktop will never be able to keep up with KDE anymore. I wonder why people still waste their time developing it. It’s out of business, slow in development, lacks a lot of features, totally unclean and inconsistent and they are loosing people with every new day.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104549
Get a funny look here. They are incapable creating stupid consistent Toolbars.
> Eugenia can you stop trolling? I don’t think you’re in any position to tell KDE what they are or what to do.
Uh, uttering an opnion doesn’t have anything to do with trolling. Besides, Eugenia doesn’t have bad intentions towards the KDE project, you should be able to see that. Eugenia’s point is, I believe, that aside from its technical merits, there’s a “whole product” concept to KDE and how it is *perceived* by potential users. They look at the screenshots, see something that they don’t like and thus won’t install it. PR is important for a project of this size, open source or not. And no, PR isn’t something that “only suits do”. On the contrary. It’s about getting information to the audience – you can do that in a good, honest way.
I agree to you here. Definately KDE needs a little team of Marketing people to spread the word and the desktop itself. It doesn’t make much sense for developers programning on KDE for many months. Give all their bests to it and then when the important day of release comes out having some nobrainer offering some of the most retarded screenshots with the excuse of ‘I don’t like AA fonts’ this is no excuse for bad public relations even if you work for free. That’s the same mistake why KDE league (wasn’t it them) failed. A bunch of nobrainer that couldn’t get the stuff out or get in contact with important companies. The GNOME people are far better. They have the most disgusting desktop but more or less better PR. Even with the poor features and usability it has they are still trying to get the best out of it and show the best pictures to the public.
Well, it’s not like the KDE people do nothing. http://dot.kde.org/ is a great resource, the release announcements are usually well written, the project homepage is clean and accessible. I really wouldn’t say GNOME does a better job of promoting their product. There’s more consistency to KDE PR, I think. And that’s a good thing.
All in all, the KDE people know what they’re doing. There’s always room for improvement, of course, and I’m pretty sure that improvement is what they’re aiming at all the time, anyway.
Yes right, I need to correct myself here. I was more refering to the Screenshots itself and the PR. Of course the KDE homepages and information pages are well written, in depth detailed and their developer pages are perfectly up to date. Needless to speak about the new comming KDE.org webpage. You people are doing a great job on that. But I would be really happy to see KDE more promote themselfes in the public and a bit better if it’s possible.
I am a KDE user using CVS here and I’m playing with GNOME CVS for the past 7 days now and I must admit that everything is outdated. Their homepage, their developer page is horrible. I was trying to find out good documentations describing all the options of gnome-vfs in detail or explaining recursive Tree’s when using GTK+ but you can’t find anyhting up to date there besides their API reference manuals and the Tutorial on gt.org which contains only 30%. Comparing this with KDE one’s then I can only dream about such documents for GNOME. You all are doing definately a perfect job there.
Thanks for KDE it’s unbeatable the best and ONLY serious desktop environment on Linux/BSD and UNIX in general.
Excellent job by the KDE team… Haven’t had any crashes yet…
My only gripe is that the fonts suck, even with AA enabled (the spacing is wrong in AA).
Anybody know how to get the Redhat XFT hack?
The new features look great. But I find the default looks not at all charming (and as always too cluttered, resembling Windows too much). Ok, will be waiting for the next Gnome.
Try the Noia icon set. I like them and they are well received on kde-look.org.
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3883
The files are on http://www.deviantart.com
Give your suggestions a voice and contribute them to the respective mailinglist at http://lists.kde.org/ , open source improves through cooperation. =)
Cheers.
Is it just me, or is Kolf just plain ugly. Personally, I wouldn’t put it in the PR screenshots, it’s presence alone makes the environment very unprofessional. Other than that, great job guys!
Get FreeType 2.1.3 from the FreeType FTP (it’s not on the official release page yet). Also, apply this patch: http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~dchest/xfthack/
Now SUSE and Mandrake can move forward with their new releases. I am still loving my conversion from KDE 2 to Kde 3.0 and will just update when the new versions come out.
I am still trying to decide whether I like the KDE 3.0 look better…
A one-click update for mandrake would be nice though… Hey I laaaaaazy.. 🙂
Kmail and Konqueror may be nice. But I REALLY love Evolution and Galeon from the Gnome side and will probably stick with them, but will use Konqueror for the file stuff…
MarkP