Today, Adobe announced that Flash will no longer be supported after 2020. Microsoft will phase out support for Flash in Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer ahead of this date.
Flash led the way on the web for rich content, gaming, animations, and media of all kinds, and inspired many of the current web standards powering HTML5. Adobe has partnered with Microsoft, Google, Mozilla, Apple, and many others, to ensure that the open web could meet and exceed the experiences that Flash has traditionally provided. HTML5 standards, implemented across all modern browsers, provide these capabilities with improved performance, battery life, and increased security. We look forward to continuing to work with Adobe and our industry partners on enriching the open web without the need for plug-ins.
We will phase out Flash from Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer, culminating in the removal of Flash from Windows entirely by the end of 2020.
Adobe’s own announcement is coughing up HTTP 500 errors right now; hence the link to Microsoft’s announcement. You can also read Apple’s/WebKit’s announcement, and the one from Chrome/Google.
My only complaint is they should just kill it now and tell anyone who doesn’t like it to get stuffed.
It can be hard to believe but there are still many websites that use it. It’s just irritating, but killing it now would break corners of the web that folk use.
Yeah. My issuing bank uses Flash to display and print out credit card statements on their website. I guess without Flash they’d have to email a password-protected PDF. AFAICT they’re just using a Flash app as a “secure” PDF viewer.
A password-protected PDF would be worse, it won’t work on every viewer. They can generate a temporary PDF on the fly or they can put the link to the PDF in a protected area of the website.
I know it’s ridden with flaws and whatnot, but the first time I saw that eye4u animation, I was completely amazed. I find a pitty that they’re shutting it down instead of fixing it. RIP Flash, I will always remember fondly.
There was something cool with flash… It is this :
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/theresheis
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/xiaoxiao
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/htf
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/hestekor
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/bunny
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/fuckhergently
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Animation
…
Key framing animation/sound synchronization remains a pain in the ass in HTML5/CSS/SVG.
The original system was nice and clean. Later versions? Bloated crap.
No more untamed wandering, coders. Concord, or be a lone ranger.
Catheters. Always feel a sense of -treason- on my applications not behaving as expected. Most of the time, due to those catheters. Sometimes installed without user permission.
Now Microsoft just needs to do the same with Silverlight.
Agree, always felt that was out of -Feud. After this, amounts to turbulence in the flow of the markets.
Silverlight is already deprecated.
But not killed. Microsoft’s own apps still use it, e.g. the Skype for Business (formerly called Lync) web-based control panel. Windows 10 comes with it installed, and Windows 7’s Microsoft Update system always wants to try to push it.
If Adobe follows through with what they’re planning, Flash won’t be deprecated; it will be dead and gone.
I used to think the same thing about Silverlight, but someone pointed out to me that Silverlight is marketed as a Flash alternative, but it’s actually a full-blown Microsoft .NET C# runtime virtual machine. It’s their version of the JRE.
But nobody cares.
Flash is more correctly compared to Microsoft Blackbird, the rendering engine for the long dead MSN, the Microsoft Network dial-up online service.
My school, and work uses flash for its online teaching of stuff. I’m not sure what they will do, there is only so much you can do with normal web standards.
Too bad for them. Using Flash not only opens critical vulnerabilities, but causes problems for any accessibility aides that might be needed for special needs students. Any school using Flash-based software deserves the roasting they will surely receive!
Ohh, I wish they would do something more modern, if only that I wouldn’t have to deal with modern browsers going “wtf flash, really?” But at school how do you emulate an office environment that the writers can control fully w/o easy hacks. At work, well they have no excuse, its just videos with questions at the end, they just don’t want to redo everything. But then again, I’m getting long in the tooth no idea what can be done in modern standards
> But at school how do you emulate an office environment that the writers can control fully w/o easy hacks.
You create dedicated OS environments and hand out preconfigured computers to the students. Hijacking control of a student’s own machine is inexcusable.
My job used it for mandatory education. A small 800×600 flash with low resolution pictures. No scaling.
There is only so much you can do with webstandards: scaling, running unreal tournament, gmail, desktop applications.
And stuff like this: https://d3js.org/
Just the format [and plug-in] going out. Those Houses coding on Adobe Tools, will not be left out at the cold. Just my expectation.
Not condoning the mess HTML5 still is, at many corners. Lower the PR and bring formality.
ummm….WTF are you talking about? YOu can do pretty much anything with web modern standards.
Unfortunately the leadership at your school chose to use proprietary technology. And this is an example of what can happen. They should instead be teaching the open standards. What are you guys doing in flash that can’t be done with open standards?
That said FINALLY Flash is dead! Glad for it. But I do feel for those who had invested in it. I knew this day would come and here it is.
Next, time to get people away from other proprietary software…
The problem with open standards is that they are often retards and so slow to come to fruition. How long for HTML5 after Flash was invented ? How long to set a portable image standard ? Movie ? Sound ? Seriously…
You missed the Firefox announcement:
https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2017/07/25/firefox-roadmap-f…
As soon as I opened this article in a new window, Firefox just crashed, is that a Flash landmine planted by Adobe to remind us just how buggy a browser can be running Flash? (BBC IPlayer was running in another tab – Flash version)
Since world-leading MMP games like World of Tanks use Flash to underpin the client (and that’s millions of users worldwide) flash as a technology is not going away soon. It will become a niche tool.
If Adobe actually intend to abandon it, it would be to their advantage to find a new niche tool or risk their entire product line becoming defunct.
Adobe seem to be doing very nicely with Photoshop (and the rest of their tools) subsctiptions.
Flash is (AFAIK) a mere pin prick on their bottom line these days. They probably spend as much on fixing it as they get in revenue.
He’s referring to the makers of “world-leading MMP games”, not Adobe itself.
ummm…..Browser vendors will be disallowing flash by the end of 2020 so it is dead.
It does not require a traditional browser. It runs in its own context.
This link describes the use of Flash in World of Tanks. It is interesting to see how Flash is really used in the grown-up world.
http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/07/04/world-of-tanks-game-user-interfa…
Edited 2017-07-25 22:13 UTC
Well isn’t that nice? 99% of flash will be dead and the only things left for it will be games that are not going to be around for a long time after.
Are you sure this game will still be relevant 3 years from now? Are you sure developers won’t put an update to replace the technology for the Windows client?
Am I sure that Queen Elizabeth won’t abdicate? Your questions are irrelevant and ridiculous.
Who gives a monkey’s cuss what they will do? The point is they don’t need one of the main browsers so they don’t have to dump the technology – and that’s it.
Any more inane questions?
MMP are like fads, they come and go to be replaced by other titles. And 3 years is a long time.
As I never tried World of Tanks, I don’t know how and why does it uses Flash. But I understand it works on various platforms, including iOS, where Flash is not available.
PS: you can be sure in a while Queen Elizabeth will not be any more and will be replaced by someone else. This is true for people and for technology.
Wow, who crapped in your cereal? The long and short of this is very simple: if Adobe kill off Flash in its entirety (including sdk, development toolchain, etc) then they absolutely will have to switch technologies, because eventually what they have will cease to function and, as if that isn’t enough, their development tools will also cease to be viable. Browser or otherwise is 100% irrelevant all right, just not the way you thought.
Any more grumpy retorts?
If… But ONLY if Queen Elizabeth abdicates.
Good-bye!
Good luck!
Good riddance!
Or just… Finally!
It’s already gone, of course, but one advantage of the time before HTML5 was that by without Flash there were no autoplay videos. With HTML5, it’s not as simple to prevent these steaming piles of unwelcome excrement.
gld59,
This!
At least flash was very easy to selectively enable/disable as wanted. Many HTML5 websites have become extremely resource heavy; I can’t stand that firefox doesn’t let me disable things like autoplay. Some news websites that I actually want to read have become much worse once they incorporated HTML5 elements that I can’t disable. I feel like in the transition to HTML5 we actually lost control over bloat, now we get it whether we want it or not
While we’re killing stuff off, can we also put a large caliber bullet in java?
Wouldn’t do any good. It’s been shot several times and always comes back from the dead. Might need to be burned instead.
Server-type Java applications and Android apps are usually fine. It’s the desktop iterations of the JVM that always blew goats. Nowadays if you want cross platform desktop support you use something like Qt or Electron or a straight webapp.
“Android apps are usually fine”? Seriously?? Really, you’re not kidding?..
electron all the way.
I’ve grown accustomed to Adobe killing Flash annually, but is that not actually the case?
A shot in the head would have been faster than anally attempts to plug the holes.
Worth a read:
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/550795-adobe-flash-i…
How about fixing Adobe Acrobat?
The Reader is a huge bloated mess that screams for updates more often than Windows does. Why can Foxit do the same thing in 1/10 the size?
Acrobat Professional hasn’t had a major update since…forever.
Now that you are not working on Flash anymore, please redirect some resources to Acrobat.
I don’t care about Acrobat. I do LibreOffice (even if it have its quirks) then export in PDF. Job done.
I use Microsoft Office to do the same.
Edited 2017-07-29 16:47 UTC
We had to replace Fox-It reader on our Citrix images because it was crashing when it tried to render some echo cardiogram reports. Adobe Acrobat reader did not crash.
Also, it is possible to prevent unnecessary plugins from launching when Acrobat reader loads which makes it much less bloated.
Edited 2017-07-29 16:47 UTC