Kim was the first to submit news of the availability of the Mozilla 1.4 beta, which is now available for download. Recently, Mozilla.org announced a new roadmap which indicates that this will be the last XPFE-based browser release before the main trunk is switched to the Phoenix/Firebird codebase.
Mozilla 1.4 Beta Available
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was released at the same time for those interested. XPI packaging for Mac OS has been fixed.
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I am hoping that they fixed the junk mail notification. I set mozilla mail to notify me when I get to new mail… and I also setup the junk mail filter. Every time I get a junk mail it notifies me! Well that is really defeating the whole purpose if i’m still bothered everytime I get spam. It’s takes me just as much time to go click on the icon and go to my mail and then click on the junk folder so that the icons goes away as it does to just let it go to my normal inbox and just hit delete my self. So I really hope they addressed this.
Mozilla 1.4 alpha Win32 has an unusual bug on my system – when using Composer to create web pages I cannot insert images with the “image location is relative to page location” ticked.. every time I save the document the full path to the image on my hard drive is inserted into the HTML
Has anyone else seen this?
I’m hoping its been fixed.. I quite like Moz composers simplicity and usability.
Mozilla menus sure work fine here.
This is not Mozilla Browser, it’s Mozilla Application Suite. The product also known as Firebird is Mozilla Browser.
The Mozilla browser is still part of this. You can just download the Mozilla browser 1.4 beta. The Firebird project doesn’t become the real Mozilla browser until after 1.4, that’s why they are calling it Firebird right now to avoid confusion.
i’ve gotten strange crashes of the 1.4b on win2k. it’ll just be sitting there (mail & browser open) and it just goes up in flames after a few minutes of use. 1.4a is more stable for me and i had to uninstall the beta.
You’re right, Hank. I fixed the post. I guess I was getting ahead of myself with the next sentence…
Having Mozilla open the homepage every time I opened a new tab was really begining to annoy me with 1.4a, glad thats changed in 1.4b. But holy moly, the Net Installer is unstable! Assertion failures, lockups, “Checksum Errors”…it took me nine or ten attempts before I finally managed to get it to install.
Still, at least this time I remembered to back up my plugins directory..
One thing that’s really weird is that in 1.4b there is some really odd bug on the Personal Toolbar that didn’t come with 1.4a.
First of all when you click on a folder on the toolbar it doesn’t disappear without you clicking it again. Also when you move plain links from extended personal toolbar >> on right side and try to move it to a folder on the toolbar, Mozilla will crash.
But… it is beta, but strangely worse than alpha…
Look forward to see Glendale hit the shelves
Does anybody know what happened with Netscape Conference? It was aj program similar to Netmeeting in the early Comunicator 4.x days. It suddendly disappeared
Hi
Get Opera, too much hype with Mozilla and still looks
ugly and HUGE…a n d s l o o o w …
NTLM on the win32 builds are a big plus for me. We use M$ Great P(l)ains at work for project management and corporate intranet uses NTLM authentication, as well. All my workstations at work run on Linux (save for one Solaris box) but every now and then I boot to win2k just to use IE to log my project hours. Though this new advancement in Mozilla doesn’t make me win32-independent, it brings me one step closer. I’ll have to try removing IE 5 from my system. I hear it’s possible.
I personally hope that both Phoenix and Firebird would stop using sheets for toolbar customization because there is a patent pending for it. It would most likely cause a lot of legal problems for Mozilla in the future if Apple decides to sue…
I used to have Opera… I liked it a lot for many things, but to be honest, it plays in minor league in terms of PC.
The mail client built in is a disaster, the adress book is even worse.
Also for some reason Opera seem to not work on a lot of sites for a reason currently unknown to me.
The amount of plugins you have for Seamonkey/Firebird makes both of them superior. Seamonkey for the heavyweight and Firebird for the lightweigt.
Besides, why would I pay for a product that doesn’t match the free one?
I tried this version, and the one before it (1.4a) and I don’t really understand the need for all the lightweight mozilla spin-offs. It boots a bit glacier like but after that the rendering of the pages is pretty snappy (1GHz Athlon running linux) and most of the times they look the same as how IE renders them, although not AntiAliased which seems a bit sluggish anyway on xfree.
I really have some issues with Phoenix, or just with Mozilla development at all. Let me state few things here:
– I sometimes wonder about validity of some decision being made at various stages of development. I thought that each version increase should mean quality improvement. I e.g. wonder, what “clever head” decided to remove full-screen mode. I can understand it was removed as JS option, but without any simple alternative left. We installed one kiosk system in our town and I decided to go with IE because of that issue. Do Mozilla developers think that simplicity is useless thing? Do I have to produce or understand tones of XUL or what code to make it full-screen? From all alternatives I’ve found I can say than only one is production quality code and other seem to be just a joke.
– so now I downloaded Phoenix and I have to ask, if it is really the way we want to go? Or do I miss something? I am full after Gecko consistency and standars support changes, but – Phoenix takes 17 MBs on my HD, is that significantly less than my Mozilla? The biggest issue is Phoenix UI though – it is completly a step back and unless it reaches current Mozilla + Pinball theme quality for me, Phoenix is a dead thing to me. To be more constructive:
– no ability to drag url to my custom bar
– terrible configuration window – much worse than Mozilla’s
– too little options to set – tab setting etc. missing
– on the other side Tools menu contain things like JS console – for whom, for what? Is that important menu item for stripped down = end-user product?
I just hope I am terribly missing something and in such case take my apology. But if I am not – let’s please think twice about the quality of result, because nowadays – Phoenix is far from being ready to replace Mozilla. Some QA coordinator should be set as I hope I am not the only one seeing all those misconceptions …
Cheers,
-pekr-
petr krenzelok:
I e.g. wonder, what “clever head” decided to remove full-screen mode. I can understand it was removed as JS option, but without any simple alternative left.
I’d just be happy if I.E. and Moz would add support for full-screen to the list of activities that are restricted by security settings, and then remove it from the Internet zone by default. I can understand your kiosk problem (having heard about your kiosk on the REBOL list), but you clearly haven’t been bitten by any of those new, persistent on-top full-screen popup ads that you have to kill with Task Manager. After a few of those you would never want to see full-screen again.
as I said – I can understand removing JS function, but why they didn’t let command line as an option?
For me it is easy as that – product easily fits my need or not. I have either option, or I don’t. So each product author should decide about where they want their product to be deployed – simple as that …
-pekr-