The dot is reporting on KDE’s 3.2 release schedule and feature plan.
Preliminary KDE 3.2 Release Schedule
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nothing suprising or shocking though.. I think they are planning a long session of hacking on KDE in their annual developers meeting at Nove Hardy, Czech Republic, which is coincidently near several self-proclaimed “Beer Capital of the World” cities.. so expect KDE 3.2 to come in the middle of 2005 alongside of Longhorn after half of the KDE core team gets alcohol poisoning
In all seriousness, hopefully they can get koffice 1.3 and kdevelop 4.0 done for kde 3.2. kexi and kontact look cool btw.
If they can get all that done, than I’ll be one happy guy when Christmas comes. The best part is that this is not even a complete feature plan and stuff is bound to get added, in addition a lot of things unmentioned on the feature plan will be added/improved etc.
Even though I have submitted almost 20 wishes/bugs to the KDE team in only about a month I like the community support and quick developer responses, I’m sure if I can get a little attention with my wishes, and considering how many other people use that site, I can only imagine how cool KDE 3.2 will be ;p
BTW: Check out my stuff: http://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&… =) Whew.
KOffice is released independently from KDE 3.2, will only depend on KDE 3.1 and is planned to be released on 6th September.
Use Gnome
Yeah, KDE is nice, but I really think gnome is more polished and crisp.
Agreed
Gnome still has a long way to go to catch up with KDE3.1. And KDE3.2 is even more polished and powerful (I installed the KDE3.2 CVS debs).
I tried Gnome2.2 and honestly, I was not excited at all. It is not faster than KDE (maybe it starts up a little quicker, but that’s it), it does not look really nicer (and that depends on the theme anyway) and it is certainly not more consistent than KDE.
And I am using programs like mutt or xemacs, so why the hack should I complain that KDE has too many options??? I really don’t understand why so many people complain, that KDE is too cluttered and has too many options. Just look at all the GNU tools, xemacs, vi, mutt and so on. That’s what Linux (UNIX) is, a powerful operating system for users that want to have control. I don’t want some UI-Designer removing this power because he thinks the UI is too cluttered and I don’t need that option. Why should he know?
I don’t think Gnome is bad, it targets a certain group of people, but I certainly am not the target of this approach and many other’s are not, too. So stop telling people they should use Gnome. For Power-Users there is no advantage, only disadvantages. Even for windows people, KDE is probably better, because it follows more the Windows-UI approach. Maybe Gnome is better for some computer newbies, but I am not that sure if Linux is the right thing for them anyway. Maybe OSX is a better choice for these people.
This leaves things like the cooporate desktop. And even for them KDE3.1 is the much better choice in my opinion, because of the Kiosk mode. Gnome has nothing like that.
Sure, it is only my opinion but at least I give some arguments. I almost never hear any arguments from Gnome people why Gnome is better than KDE, except this “we have a HIG and therefore Gnome is so great” crap.
But Gnome just give the interface against the normal. I always confirm something bad whereas the actual fact is that I want to cancel. It is bad when they change the normal position of important button.
But Gnome just give the interface against the normal. I always confirm something bad whereas the actual fact is that I want to cancel. It is bad when they change the normal position of important button.
Just because Windows does it that way doesn’t mean it’s the best. People who can’t adapt to a simple change of button order will return to KDE where it’s an option. Most people who adapt prefer it due to the fact that you always know where to find the confirm button.
But Gnome just give the interface against the normal. I always confirm something bad whereas the actual fact is that I want to cancel. It is bad when they change the normal position of important button.
Even worse, some Gnome windows have no Cancel at all. Instead every change is immediately applied. You must be very careful what to do…
In the past Gnome used to be faster than KDE. Back when KDE 2 was out, it was slow as all hell. But that isn’t the case anymore. I do think Gnome looks a little crisper, but I like the advanced features of KDE. In reality, I can’t say weather I like KDE or Gnome better. I switch between both of them all the time. But there are some features in KDE that aren’t present in Gnome which gets me frustrated sometimes.
What the heck is up with Windowmaker? I haven’t seen a new release in forever…if it had more features, I would use it all the time (I LOVE the NeXT UI). What it needs is a built in NeXT-style file manager and other NeXT-like apps.
Windowmaker is a Windowmanager and not a Desktop Envorinement. If you want to have something like NextStep + a NextStep like filemanager, mailapp etc. try GnuStep (www.gnustep.org).
Micheal… Some troll makes a two word posting and you write an essay in response… you really need to relax.
I agree with you that telling other people what to use is absolutely bullshit and everyone should use what works for him or her… It is not true though that simple interfaces only have advantages for newbies. Many many advanced users and developers prefer this style of applications because it allows them to concentrate on their work (or having fun). I am like this and I don’t feel ashamed because of it.
Besides, I don’t see why we shouldn’t rival OSX for ease of use. I’m pro-FreeSoftware, not pro-Unix.
I almost never hear any arguments from Gnome people why Gnome is better than KDE
Is this a bad thing? Having followed both KDE and GNOME for years, I think there is nothing more silly than arguing which one is better in general. One thing I like very much about the (more educated) GNOME community is, that they usually talk quite positively about KDE. Sure we don’t like it (then we would use it), but that doesn’t mean we have to bash it.
Instead every change is immediately applied. You must be very careful what to do…
Yeah, don’t click on the red button.
Seriously, if a change would be really dangerous, it should require explicit apply. I couldn’t live without instant apply anymore.
I know window maker is a window manager. What I’m saying is that in the future, there should be a package which includes window maker along with several GNUStep apps. I personally tried the whole GNU step thing a few months ago. All the apps I tried to compile never had a successful outcome, including a NeXT-style file manager. But this should all come in one easy-to-install package, so you don’t have to go through and compile everything, especially since the libraries always change, and it’s hard to get a good compile.
I just posted Use Gnome becuase I just wanted to see what peoples real reaction was to Gnome and KDE as I new a comment that could get flamed out of the water would really sprak peoples opions, my personal pref is Gnome but I find KDE also just as good and have nothing against it at all