Home > SuSE, openSUSE > SGI, SuSE Announce OEM Alliance, Development AgreementSGI, SuSE Announce OEM Alliance, Development Agreement Submitted by Matthias Toth 2003-08-25 SuSE, openSUSE 20 CommentsSGI will be bundling SuSE Enterprise Linux on its Altix 3000 64 processor servers and superclusters, beginning in October. SuSE will also provide 3rd-level support to SGI customers.About The Author David AdamsFollow me on Twitter @david_adams 20 Comments 2003-08-25 4:48 pm SuSE is all over the Corprate world lateley. What’s his face’s comments about RH & SuSE were bad, but they are proving there not backing down to anyone. Sco M$, whoever. There bring linux to another level! good for them.I don’t use SuSE anymore, but it’s still good for linux to have a big dog takeing on the corp env.my .02 2003-08-25 5:18 pm SuSE has partnerships with Sun, Sgi, IBM and Oracle….Those were some of the Unix giants back then….It proves the fact that almost all big companies (except Microsoft) are working together on GNU/Linux. Great!I (also) don’t use SuSE anymore, but it’s still my commercial linux of choise. (I’m now using Debian and Solaris) 2003-08-25 5:41 pm It proves the fact that almost all big companies (except Microsoft) are working together on GNU/Linux. Great! Can be rephrased as“It proves the fact that almost all big companies that lost their previous luster are working together on GNU/Linux. Great! “ 2003-08-25 5:44 pm I think my commercial linux of choice is still RedHat.Not sure why with their latest PR maneuvers, but for some strange reason I like them better than SuSE. Oh, yeah, its the free isos. Saves me time and money. My time is far more valuable than money. And SuSE Linux looks cool, but is so annoying.Non-commercial linux is still where its at, IMHO. 2003-08-25 5:44 pm Famous CooCaChoo quotes. My favorite OSNews poster. Don’t let those ATTBI trolls keep you down man!http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=3718#107138then grab your wallet and buy the bloody commercial solution that is apparently superior or would that actuallt require moving out of your parents basement, get a job and actually be responsible for something once in your misserable and pathetic little life.http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=4242#132108Submitt stories from Kuro5hin? I might as well post the latest issue of the North Korean Daily times relating to the “great leaders” attitude to the west.http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=3568#100464The reason why a large number of people don’t realise is because the majority of people are moronic simpletons.http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=3984As for Word, are you joking? are you really that stupid?Why are you such a clueless moron.Please, someone buy this lady a cluewhere have you been? hiding under a rock?By another clue lady (jeepers, two clue orders within one post, must be a record).I really couldn’t believe someone would be as stupid Ana O´Neemus unless they were a troll.http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=4258#132898I can’t believe people actually believe that Rotor is a full implementation of .NET. Are people here THAT stupid?http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=3718&offset=45&rows=60#10…Blame the idiot who made the first post and some how tried to relate it to X.http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=3833#113181Nothing is worse than a company b*astardising a great design for the yuppy generation who have more dollars than sense or style.http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=3727#107900what the hell do you think is going to run on the server which these applications will need to interact with? think about that sunshine before making such stupid remarks.Confronted with his wrongness:http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=3487#98039Oh, your[sic] such a guru. A genius amongst the unwashed masses, how could I ever question such wisdomhttp://www.osnews.com/moderation.php?news_id=4225#131574it says they live with their mum and dad. When they get out into the big band world I beat they won’t be able to afford broadband let alone dial up on a wage from KFC as the garbage changer and table cleaner. 2003-08-25 5:46 pm SGI never lost its luster. It just happily gave it all to Linux, before anyone even asked for it.SGI has always been a technology company. Sun/IBM, etc are here for business and for the money. 2003-08-25 6:00 pm SGI lost its luster when Jim Clark left.And they changed their logo.And they lost their edge with MIPS chips.And they sold half their patent portfolio to Microsoft.And 50 engineers left to work at ATI and Nvidia.And so on. 2003-08-25 6:18 pm Give it up, man, that just looks childish.@rajan r:Personally, if I was MS, I’d be pretty worried that all the companies I’d pissed off over the years decided to unite around a single technology with the obvious goal of defeating me. And guess what, this is exactly how MS feels as well, hence Linux becoming the #2 threat after the slumping economy.If there’s one thing that history has taught us, it’s that empires fall – no matter how powerful they may seem to be. 2003-08-25 6:24 pm >>My time is far more valuable than money. And SuSE Linux looks cool, but is so annoying.>>I agree, time is more valuable than money. That’s why I use SuSE over the others–IMHO 8.2 is the easiest and cleanest distro compared to RH and MDK. So my question is, what is so annoying about it? 2003-08-25 7:31 pm SuSE use KDE as its’ default desktop / widget kit.AFIK, KDE is liscenced under the pure GNU liscence(thanks to TrollTech), which means that to write evena commercial shareware application, you need to shellout a load of cash to TrollTech.So, would’nt RedHat and Gnome (LGPL) be a much betterchoice for commercial application?Yes, I know you can run Gnome apps with KDE, but it lookslike a Gnome app, it does not look consistant with the restof KDE. 2003-08-25 7:37 pm “I agree, time is more valuable than money. That’s why I use SuSE over the others–IMHO 8.2 is the easiest and cleanest distro compared to RH and MDK”Same experience here! For me SuSE is the best Linux-distro as it’s the one who gives me most time over for work and having fun. I think it’s completly on par with WinXP! 2003-08-25 8:04 pm SuSE 8.1 was my first linux distro and it installed everything on my Laptop (usb zip, usb cdrw, mouse, sound, 8x dvd, lan, video) flawlessly. After 5 months of using it as my only OS and reading alot on the internet and some O’Reilly books I bought, I thought it was time to move onto something more hands on. I used slackware 9.0 and it setup everything good except my DSL connection, I had problems with it, I eventually got it working, but I liked SuSE better (i guess i am not a true linux user yet?) so I waited for 8.2 to come out, and it is great. SuSE makes a great distro and it is well worth the free FTP install or 70 bucks for pro…some just don’t think so. 2003-08-25 9:22 pm But I find SuSE to be nowher near as organised as RedHat. YAST looks ugly to me at least, and it was difficult for me to actually get it to update from the place I installed it from. Shall give it another try again though. Maybe I found the GNOME setup rather lacking. ‘Ugly’ is the right word. I know I can change it, but it seemed too much to ask of me.Plus the fact that I cn’t have iso’s is too bad. I keep the Redhat iso’s on my hard disk so I can install anytime. I cannot mirror the whole ftp directory for SuSE on my HD. Too big.I really do not understand why people give Redhat flak about KDE. I found it as good going as SuSE’s, but I use GNOME anyway, so my opinion may not count here.The setup though is pretty neat. Different from Redhat’s, and the soft boot thingy looks pretty nice too. But I expect all that in RedHat X (10), whichever, and I still get free iso’s. PLus with Fedora and Freshrpms and Apt and Yum and up2date now, Redhat’s quite difficult to beat. 2003-08-25 10:09 pm Yes, you are alone. The FTP fits on like 6 CDs, that is minus the sources sub-directory which you most likely won’t need. That is not drastically more than RH, I guess. Apart from that, go copy someone else’s CDs or take ISO thereof.Apart from that, I don’t understand you guys. On the one hand you cry that something is not free as in beer, on the other hand you mug people up for being such cheap skates who don’t wanna support the coders — so… what are you really up to, guys? You know, if everybody would get everything free out of either distributor, there wouldn’t be any of them in the first place. For example, SuSE is said to employ like 40-50 people working on KDE only — what do you think where all the improvements come from..? 2003-08-25 10:37 pm I think it is great that we have two great distribution and I wouldn’t mind it if there was another. A little variety on top of a common core is a good thing! 2003-08-25 10:43 pm So my question is, what is so annoying about it?Last time I used it I had to fix some borked configuration in /etc/X11/XF86Config that I couldn’t do through the GUI. The system didn’t have an easy way to update software. Downloading rpms and solving dependencies myself was very frustrating. And after modifying /etc/X11/XF86Config it overwrote my changes.Unless they have it working perfectly now it would probably still annoy me, because I know how to make Linux work for me. 2003-08-26 12:39 am I’ve been using SuSE even since the 7.0 days and I’m very satisfied with their superior desktop product. I also don’t rely on the FTP setup, I’m the first one to preorder the Pro version when it comes, and now waiting for 9.0 to be released 🙂“SuSE use KDE as its’ default desktop / widget kit.AFIK, KDE is liscenced under the pure GNU liscence(thanks to TrollTech), which means that to write evena commercial shareware application, you need to shellout a load of cash to TrollTech.”If you want to develop an commercial application using a mature and supported GUI (sorry, my boss doesn’t like mailing lists) then there is no problem in buying a license from Trolltech. The license fees add VERY little to the total cost of a commercial application. The commercial license is not for those who want to make a small two-weeks-hack app and sell it for $5.“So, would’nt RedHat and Gnome (LGPL) be a much betterchoice for commercial application?”First of all, it’s not about KDE/Gnome, we’re talking about Qt/GTK. While I agree that the ‘default’ GUI toolkit for a specefic OS _should_ be free, it’s not the case now because we don’t have a _default_ toolkit and it will stay that way for a while. Maybe Trolltech will change its license to LGPL in the future, we don’t know.Also bare in mind that many people think “free” implies “no costs”. You can choose a poor GUI toolkit and spend many hours on development and research effort that the “freeness” of the toolkit is no longer relevant. Rememeber that time is money. 2003-08-26 3:03 am What a peaceful world without SCO bitching around OSNews for the last few days. I’m hoping SCO will just got “DELETED” from this world so that improvement like this news can emerge.SUSE is quite good distro but I don’t like it when I tried it before (around version 8 I think) it just running slow on my PC. Furthermore the auto detection was inferior compared to RH at that time. Maybe they improve it in version 9 but if the can manage the speed issue, that will be great. 2003-08-26 11:41 am I have no problem with SGI products. But, financially, the company is in the toilet. SGI has become a penny-stock, a share of SGI is now under $1. SGI financial fundamentals are awful – I’m amazed SGI is still in business.And how about that united-linux? SuSe, and two “also rans.” One of those also-rans very actively trying to ruin linux, and very vocally bashing linux users.SuSe has some strong linux distros. Why does SuSe partner with such losers? 2003-08-27 12:53 am Will it run Open Office?