QNX Software Systems announced that Daewoo Precision Industries has selected the QNX Neutrino realtime operating system (RTOS) as the foundation for its next generation of in-car navigation systems.
Daewoo Selects QNX For In-Car Navigation System
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Who wants to run Windows CE in their car, anyways?
The other is VxWorks. But IMHO this is great news for QNX, especially since Daewoo is owned by GM, may see it be expanded further (ie all GM owned companies may eventually use QNX).
Maybe I would be taking a little more notice if the car company wasn’t Daewoo.
Wake me when a real car manufacturer makes the switch.
Well, as a long time daewoo owner (since 2000) I think it’s great that they are not choosing windows.
And believe me the daewoo’s are real cars with real advantages:
1. Cheap
2. Reliable (We have started calling our 5 year old Lanos “Old Reliable”)
3. Fuel efficient.
4. Did I mention cheap to repair.
I admit they are not luxury cars, but a daewoo gets me from a to b, cheaply, comfortably (although not BMW comfort) and reliably.
So if you just want a no-nonsense car buy a daewoo.
Well, as a long time daewoo owner (since 2000) I think it’s great that they are not choosing windows.
And believe me the daewoo’s are real cars with real advantages:
1. Cheap
2. Reliable (We have started calling our 5 year old Lanos “Old Reliable”)
3. Fuel efficient.
4. Did I mention cheap to repair.
I admit they are not luxury cars, but a daewoo gets me from a to b, cheaply, comfortably (although not BMW comfort) and reliably.
So if you just want a no-nonsense car buy a daewoo.
I am assuming from those comments that you’re not American 😉
I’m weighing up either getting a Daewoo, Kia or Hyundai. Either way, I’m on the same wicket as you, get a car that works. Sure, it isn’t sexy but it does get one from a to b with minimum fuss, bother and hassles.
I think the Tiburon is actually quite attractive for its price. And the Accent’s looks are on par with a Honda Civic sedan (not terrible), and definitely cheaper.
No I am not an american..
I danish, and yes I can understand you comparing those 3 car types, my personal opinion is that they are all quite good.
My uncle drives a Hyundai and loves it. I personally drive daewoo and a friend of mine drives a Kia.
I would recommend all, but I know from expirience that a daewoo is cheap to maintain.
I mean the mechanic apoligized to me for a repair cost of 750 Euro. And he did do a complete service-check, change all break pads, change all tires to good year, cleaned the aircondition, fixed the suspension, fixed the exhaust pipe and adjusted the engine.
Now a comparable repair to a bmw (in germany where is was done), would have cost at least twice the amount.
A car discussion on OSNews. This is a first.
Didn’t Daewoo go bankrupt sometime last year? What happened with that? I remember Daewoo’s could be bought for up to 2 grand less in the UK due to dealers dumping liquidation stock last summer. I assume they got rescued somehow.
So QNX needs a Daewoo driver !
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sorry
Wake me when a real car manufacturer makes the switch.
Wake up, Anony!
Daewoo is GM now. Do you think GM will try new technologies on american GM makes? But if Daewoo affair succeeds, they will get reliable and real-life tested technology
BTW, the same attitude as it is now towards Korean makes, was in 80s regarding Japanese makes. Do you still think that Japanese car companies are not real?
Back to topic – I’ve heard numerous times that WinCE-powered stuff in BMW 7 series is hell slow. If they at Daewoo will have reasonable responsiveness with QNX, I think that other makes will follow and Microsoft will be out of automobile business.
Interesting what Samsung car makers are working on now. It seems that Samsung guys try and license every techology on the planet (look at their cellphone/smartphone business for example)
All I think of when I think Daewoo is their rebirth of the mk2 Vauxhall Astra body…!
Its good to see QNX getting used like this, especially by a GM owned company. Evaluations of such technologies normally get passed around brother/sister companies, so should hopefully lead to bigger and brighter things for the embedded OS.
Also, with the sluggishness of CE in BMW’s, who knows what other manufacturers will follow with an alternative that was previously not considered viable…
Didn’t Daewoo go bankrupt sometime last year? What happened with that? I remember Daewoo’s could be bought for up to 2 grand less in the UK due to dealers dumping liquidation stock last summer. I assume they got rescued somehow.
Daewoo is the typical Asian business, it has its fingers in a number of pies. in the case of Daewoo, the parent company is called “The Daewoo Group” which is made up of Daewoo Heavy, Daewoo Shipbuilding, Daewoo Electronics and numerous others. IIRC, Daewoo had to reduce debt and one of the parts that was sold off to GM was Daewoo Motor for around $25billion IIRC. GM is now using it to get into the Asia-Pacfic market.
The debt problem for Daewoo was cased way back in the middle 90s when the South Korean Won was valued quite highly and thus borrowed heavily from US banks, when the Asian economic crisis occured, the value of the South Korean Won fell through the floor resulting in the Daewoo debt being unmaintainable.
QNX was involved for a long with GM in order to implement a RTOS in driving a car along the Interstates
Just because a person uses and advocates an Asian-made car doesn’t automatically mean their not Americans. My wife and I are American, and we own two cars: a Nissan Sentra (9 years old with 190,000 miles on it) and a Toyota Corolla (4 years old with 124,000 miles on it).
Not all Americans are “rabid” about buying American. I buy what gives me the best value for my $$. When Ford or GM starts making cars with all the features (gas mileage, reliability, longevity) of Asian cars, at a good price, I might consider buying them again.
I agree. But unfortunately the Americans (seen as an average) has a tendency to drive huge gas-drinking cars and complaining about a price of $1 per gallon.
Perhaps the americans need to realise that Europeans pay about $1 for 1 litre. Thats why fuel efficient cars are popular here in Europe.
I suspect that if prices were raised in the US, sales of fuel efficient cars would explode.
Besides with the current oil situation, the americans will have to wake up and smell the roses. Prices will go up eventually.
Well, I am gonna stop here before turning it into a flamefest/political discussion. and yes I know that what I said does not apply to all americans, I have met a lot of nice/reasonable ones too
As for QNX, it seems to me that it is the perfect OS for a car. If you can power a nuclear powerplant with it, it’s probably good enough for a car.
“Wake me when a real car manufacturer makes the switch.”
Uhm, although already replied to, I have to add my two cents…
Asian cars are known (espacially brands like Toyota and Mitshubishi) to be extremely reliable, costworthy, and easy on the petrol.
Shall we go back to computer articles now?
What you are doing is called a “Stereotype”. That means you are lumping an entire segment of a population based on ideas or generalizations. Yes, there are big cars in America (USA), but there are also tons and tons of small, fuel efficient cars on our roads.
Also, I think you’ll find that a big reason for gasoline price is taxes added by the governments. If the price of gasoline in the US were to make such a huge jump like you suggest, there would probably be quite a few lawmakers hanging from telephone poles, and they know it 😉
Re: @ raver31:
This is starting to get just a wee bit too personal. Name calling is not a generally accepted social practice. I’d suggest you refrain from doing so on a public board. If you don’t like Americans, that’s fine. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. However, voicing said opinion on a public forum, dedicated to computer operating systems and the like, is not the right thing to do.
and I would never buy an american car……basically they all suck and break down.
SUBARU is the way to go…….GO WRX GO….. 🙂
I’m American. I drive an American car, a 1996 Saturn (owned by GM). It’s reliable and fuel-efficient (35-42 mi/gal usually). So I don’t quite fit the mold described above, although it’s true that a lot of Americans drive fuel-inefficient cars and complain about the price of gas.
On the other hand, I just spent six weeks in Italy, where the roads are tighter and less convenient, there’s a much better public transportation system (the train is eminently sensible, uhm, when it runs on time), and the traffic is absolutely insane. Yet the Italians are at least as car-crazy as the Americans, and it doesn’t seem to me that they’re all that much more into “efficient” cars. Matter of fact, I’m pretty sure Alfa Romeo and Ferrari aren’t known for their fuel-efficiency. Even Fiat isn’t known for the most fuel-efficient cars, and I believe that’s the most widely-dispersed car in Italy. The Italians certainly do have a lot of stinky polluters on the road, all things considered, and the moment they can afford a van SUV or an SUV, they jump all over the thing, just as my relatives did.
Seems to me, the difference between Americans and Italians (and probably between Americans & the rest of the world) has more to do with relative wealth than with intelligence. Especially since the clowns here buying the SUVs are not usually “gun-toting morons”, but well-bred Europhiles, believe it or not. My mom (who is closer, politically speaking, to a “gun-toting moron” than most SUV owners) complains bitterly about SUVs any chance she gets.
As for the right turn at an intersection: we learned it from the Europeans back during the 70’s energy crisis. It was supposed to help save gas.
the right turn thing….. you will have noticed driving in europe that when you are turning right at a junction, the flow of traffic at the junction is stopped. In the states you turn right into the flow of incoming traffic !
SUV’s, why ? what makes town people buy them ?
Over in northern ireland, most of them are sold to mums who take 1 kid to school in them in the morning and collect them again in the afternoon. It causes massive traffic conjestion.
How many of these town living SUV drivers have actually used the 4 wheel drive capability of these cars off road ? probably about 2%
When interviewed, all owners of these type of cars say they bought them because they feel safe inside them.
I used to work for an auto insurance company, and the fact is, that SUVs are all top heavy, and will flip over at speed over an uneven surface, (the type of surface they look as if they are designed for).
SUV’s are also killers in another way. Almost all SUV’s have bull bars on the front of them. In an impact, all the force behind the vehicle is condensed into the surface area of the (usually) 2 bars. This is bad enough when the SUV collides with another car, but if it hits a child, the child is killed. There is a law banning bull bars in the UK, but SUV’s are sold with them as standard, so the drivers are not prosecuted for driving with them. Although if they do kill someone with the car, they are jailed for manslaughter.
I rented a Nubira II and it worked well. No complaints.
Lot of decent Korean cars that do not make it to the US like the Kia Elan, SSangYong Musso and Korando and the Hyundai Equis. Not bad cars.
What is interesting is that there are a lot of Natural Gas cars in Korea since regular gas is like $5 a gallon. (no joke)
I think Hybrids will take off well there when (Hyundai/Daewoo/Samsung) develop one. (not to many foreign cars)
I drive a 1998 Ford Contour. It’s an American car the was designed by Ford Europe. I bought it with 23,000 miles and now have 127,000 miles on it. I have done nothing but regular maintenence (performed by myself) to the car for the time I have had it. While I like this car, and have been very happy with it’s reliablity, it only get 27 mpg highway. My father has three Buicks (2 Park Avenues, 1 Century) which have 250,000, 325,000, 450,000 miles. The 87 Buick Park Avenue with 450,000 miles seats six, gets 30 miles per gallon highway, and has a decent amount of power from it’s 3.8 liter V-6. The only repairs necessary in almost half a million miles are 3 sets of ball joints, and a transmission. Maintenence is dirt cheap, especially because you can work on it yourself (the engine isn’t shoehorned in as most newer cars foreign or domestic). I’ll probably buy an older used Buick when my car dies.
Since everyone’s off topic I’ll post my bit that’s off topic and then jump back in topic:
MINI FOR LIFE! (that’s all I have to say about that)
I’ve used QNX quite a bit before, and from what I’ve heard it’s been used for years in situations where reliability on embedded and real-time systems is needed most. I don’t see how much more testing you would need if this is the case.
http://www.qnx.com/markets/mk_industrial.html
In short… if it’s reliable enough for astronauts to be using I think it will do for my onboad navigation system which is more likely there so I can show off than it is so I can use it.
I “would” buy American if they had what I wanted. But I don’t see any AWD american sports sedans with a manual transmission.
Actually there haven’t been any American cars that could be considered sports sedans up until recently. Just regular econo cars, trucks, suv’s, plain big sedan highway cruisers(fwd with
automatic transmission), and the mustang/camaro types were the only choices for afordable sports car.
it seems QNX has a good foot in the automobile industry:
http://www.openqnx.com/Article46.html
http://www.openqnx.com/Article74.html
http://www.openqnx.com/Article144.html
http://www.openqnx.com/Article165.html
http://www.openqnx.com/Article178.html
Woah dude, settle down. I don’t knew where you were in the US, but there’s a few things I’d like to point out:
Yes, SUVs are stupid. People buy them for the “snow” in the Northeast/Mid-Atlantic. That’s bull. I grew up in Buffalo, NY (we’d see 1-2 ft (30-60cm) of snow regularily overnight). I drove a Dodge Neon, my family also has Mitsubishi Eclipses. (FWD cars).
And I don’t know where you were seeing all those “bull bars” (aka Brush gaurds, donkey killers (in S America)), but *maybe* 1 in 20 trucks here have them, and never as standard or dealer options.
“Wake me when a real car manufacturer makes the switch.”
I won’t even touch the real car bit since others have.
Switch? There is no switch. QNX is used exclusivly in many places. In the embedded world, QNX is immensly popular. For instance, many cash registers use QNX. I hear many street light systems also use QNX. There are very few alternatives to switch from, and those alternatives do not include Microsoft or Linux. They include systems like VxWorks.
I drove a Daewoo once, it had GREAT handling actually. I was very impressed (I drive a BMW, for your reference).
It’s interesting to see people talk about how crappy American cars are, when they switched suit back in the 80’s and early 90’s and haven’t driven or owned an American car since then. From what I have seen, a lot of the newer GM cars are very good on gas, and if driven properly see a repair shop as often as any Honda or Subaru.
Now I can’t say that this is true for all American cars, but I can tell you that not all Japanese cars are really that amazing either. Growing up with a family of mechanics you really gain a lot of respect for American and European cars.
In the states you turn right into the flow of incoming traffic !
Um, incoming traffic? No, if there’s incoming traffic one is not supposed to make the right turn at the red light, but yield the right of way to that traffic.
SUV’s, why ? what makes town people buy them ?
Over in northern ireland, most of them are sold to mums who…
What on earth does this have to do with QNX, or for that matter with your earlier rant against America?
Better yet: never mind.
Hmmmm… well american companies like ford and gm sell good cars in europe, it’s just that they don’t sell those cars in america, the cars are designed and built in europe so they’re basically european cars, made for european tastes, i doubt that if gm started selling opel’s in america anyone would buy them, in fact, since most of the cars have manual gearshifts/clutch i dont think they would even know how to drive them. Not to mention diesel cars wich are very common in europe (do american gas stations even sell diesel??)…
in fact, since most of the cars have manual gearshifts/clutch i dont think they would even know how to drive them.
What, like mine? Like my father’s? Like my friends’? (Yes, ” friends’ ” as in the plural.)
Not to mention diesel cars wich are very common in europe (do american gas stations even sell diesel??)…
Yes, and it usually costs less than the usual gasolines. Most American trucks (ie tractor trailers, dump trucks, &c.) run on diesel.
Ok, yes yes, we all have are likes and dislikes of cars. I’m a american, i like some american cars, i like some asian cars and I like some European cars. At the same time there are crap on all fronts to. I do get tired of american cars suck blah blah. these people are drones to salesmen. There are plenty of good american cars. Same as some of other areas of the world are good and others not. There isn’t much differant in todays cars. They will all pretty much perform the same overall. and where you live will greatly influence what you buy and how practical it is, and how much it cost. So having people rant from around the world doesn’t do much.
For those who do bitch about american cars being huge gas guzzleing unrelible cars get a reality check. For one they are very reliable, unless of course you beat it which won’t do good for any car. Americans like big cars. Many/most of us do not like being wedged into a car. I can’t fit comfortably in anything smaller then a taurus so that takes most of the asian market out of the picture, and i’m not fat, i’m rather normal. Also no point getting a small car when you can have a bigger one, that for most areas having a bigger car has no negitives just pluses. And for gass guzzling, well, yes american cars do tend to suck a bit more gas. But at the same time they also are better on emissions. Europe has untill very recently poor emissions standards and so does the rest of the world. In the US being clean is what matters, so mileage was traded off. The two do not go together well. So your car may get great mileage but it’s not very good for the earth. Mileage doesn’t matter. It’s a personal thing. I relize people are nuts who bitch about gas prices. I live in the US and as long as gas stays below 4 bucks a gallon I will call it cheap.
I have no real beef with SUVs, sure people having them in cities is silly in some ways, but i don’t care. All the stereotypes thrown at all SUVs piss me off, since they really only fit a few people. Most people bought an SUV due to sheer practicality. Got decent amount of stuff you move a lot, got a family of more then 4 people total, got a trailer or boat, like outdoor activities, don’t like being wedged into a small car etc.
What does make me made is people vandalizing and burning down a SUV dealer ship in LA risking firefighter lives and the fire from burning them did more environmental harm then all of the SUV’s could have ever done combined in 20 years.
If you want a small car fine, if you want a suv fine. To each their own.
“Daewoo Selects QNX For In-Car Navigation System”
Congratulations QNX Software Systems. QNX is a great system.
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