Home > Red Hat > Red Hat Moves into Enterprise SoftwareRed Hat Moves into Enterprise Software Eugenia Loli 2003-09-23 Red Hat 14 CommentsIn a move to extend its business beyond the Linux operating system, Red Hat Inc. announced an initiative to deliver open source application server, clustering and systems management software that works seamlessly with Red Hat Enterprise Linux.About The Author Eugenia LoliEx-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker.Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 14 Comments 2003-09-23 7:45 pm I’m not sure how I fell about this. On one hand, a company has to make $$. On the other hand, I need a free (as in loader) Linux distro that isn’t backed by a community full of zealots and 1337s.Hopefully the Fedora Project will still be as high quality as RHL was. 2003-09-23 8:01 pm Redhat always sucked as a distro. They always refused to deliver desktop linux stuff that didn’t suck. Their enterprise abilities sucked, they had a serious lack of packages. No apt-get-like app..etc.Now at least with enterprise stuff, they focus on a few apps, but now it’s to their advantage. They can refine individual apps and they know who their customer is. I’m very happy that they decided to make linux into a serious tool and scrapped their behind-the-times distro. 2003-09-23 8:04 pm Hey Bevis: try this distro.http://www.jamd-linux.com/index.php 2003-09-23 9:30 pm Now they only need to start producing hardware and they can rename themselves ‘Sun’.j/k But it’s strange to see how an open source company begins to take on all of the traits of a traditional unix vendor. 2003-09-23 11:31 pm What?? How are they a traditionally unix vendor? All of th emony making linux distros are all about servers and support.Now lets see where rh did (and still is) contributng to th eopen source world:1) freedesktop and friends – nope, its not a primary goal, but it sure is one of thier missions to get kde and gnome to work seamlessly to make thier enterprise product more refined2)Kernel – alan cox, nuff said3) rpm – most distros use rpm, now just try to remind peple that it stands for Redhat Package Management4) Gnome – well enough flames have gone under the river for this5) kudzu- one of the top hardware detection programwhat else am I forgetting? 2003-09-24 12:23 am >No apt-get-like appthat’s not true i’m useing apt-get now. And there is yum also.what package I wanted that did not come with the distro I have used apt-get to find. Everything else said by Taras really is a personel opinion and that’s cool. But after trying many distros(beginner and not so beginner) I feel that really red hat is one of the most refined distros out there IMHO.I’m not sure if i like the way they are going quite yet. But it sounds like it will result in some good improvements for both desktop(though without RH support services) and for enterprise.We’ll see I guess 2003-09-24 12:41 am and i hope that the fedora project will be debian-like minus the “debian/gentoo users’ attitude” 2003-09-24 12:55 am “and i hope that the fedora project will be debian-like minus the debian/gentoo users’ attitude”Heh. it’s old hat. 2003-09-24 12:56 am interesting… hadnt noticed that one before… looks worthy of trying… am downloading now :o) 2003-09-24 4:01 am http://www.distrowatch.comSeriously. If you follow linux, go there. 2003-09-24 8:23 am > and i hope that the fedora project will be debian-like minus the> “debian/gentoo users’ attitude”So you want to use software which developers are all nice to you? Good luck finding any such thing (we don’t cound these one-people projects). I know quite a number of developers from Microsoft, IBM, and several free software projects personaly and if I would only use software from developers which I really like I could’nt use software at all. In every group of people, if it’s only large enough, are people I don’t like. I choose software not because the charisma of it’s developers (or users) but of the quality of the software. Makes sense, eh? 2003-09-24 8:39 am Hi,I have used many distros in the past than I set on RH.The reason is simple :I have no time to mess up with kernel compilations (althogh I know how to do it), lot of unuseful packages or other things like a that, I want a stable distro with easy HW recognition and setup.I want a real alternative to Windowz that is hassle-free.Maybe RH is conservative about the packages but does the work,if it lacks on multimedia you have freshrpms.net.To really emerge as an alternative for the Desktop Linux has to go it’s own way without mimick MS Windblows, but giving ease of use and all the necessary stuff to surf the web, write docs, e-mail, image manipulation, MP3, and video/DVD play. Sure Fedora will maintain its Hat roots, but maybe some more multimedia stuff lacking now will be added.I want Linux to succed, but I also think that to succeed Linux shouldn’t be a geek stuff. I do not mess up with my TV set to change channel, I press a button on the remote…Good Linux to everyone !!!!– Bye– Paolo 2003-09-24 12:40 pm I would rather buy UnixWare than Red Hat now. Red Hat has totally butchered their operation and I dont think it will improve enough to make me or anyone else happy. 2003-09-24 1:00 pm Notice how Sun priced RH out of the market. Now RH needs an ‘orion’ to compete.RH should stick with the retail market, where they were finally making headway. To abandon retail and make Red Hat Linux into ‘Debian with a sponsor’ won’t cut it. The never ending next release syndrone.I never thought Linux was useful as an enterprise server, should be a desktop, that’s where the users are and that’s where the security is really needed. Maybe Lindows and their breathern will succeed. Seagate is loading Lindows on their disks, that should be interesting.My thought is Sun has it right with their new Java Desktop distro. A limited functionality distro which will do the job for most internet centric users. Note Sun also undercuts RH E-WS product price as well.