I decided to review the Libranet Distribution because there just aren’t many reviews available on it, and I am sure that there are plenty of people who would like to know what Libranet is and how it works.
Overview
Libranet is Debian based. This is good for Debian lovers. Other folks coming from Redhat based distributions or Slackware will find it merely different. Package management is where Debian shines, updating and installing applications is a snap using Synaptic, or really any .deb tool. There is a lot of community support for Libranet. There is a even a forum area dedicated to Libranet:
http://forum.libranet.com/
That is enough overview. Let’s get started on the nitty gritty. People who are used to downloading the latest version of their favorite distribution – to give it a shot, will be shocked to learn that Libranet costs, money. Not a lot, for the value it provides, but unlike some distributions, it definitely costs, period. It costs $69.95 US for the Flagship Edition – 2 CDs or $64.95 US to download. That having been said, I strongly suggest that you read on. There is definite value to be had in a distribution that costs. Libranet adds value.
Requirements
System requirements for Libranet are very modest:
The exact requirements are available at:
http://www.libranet.com/system_requirements.html
Getting the Media
When I asked Libranet for a copy of their latest distribution version 2.8.1, they were more than happy to provide it. They gave me a secure link for downloading it in the same manner that a customer who purchased it via the web would get. I downloaded it in a little over an hour. The distribution comes on 2 CDs. The source code is also available for download. I did not need or want it.
I burned the ISOs on to two 80 Minute 700 MB CDs and rebooted the desktop.
Installation – Stage 1
In Libranet, the first stage of the install is a text (or console) based install. I admit that I was somewhat surprised at this. I had expected a GUI based installer. Well, all I can say is – how refreshingly simple! I will not bore you with the details. This is a review, not an installation manual. If you want to know how to install it, there is a Libranet Install Guide on the Libranet site that covers the process perfectly, with and without pictures:
http://www.libranet.com/guide/
The main objectives accomplished by the stage 1 installer are:
The stage 1 process was very simple and worked beautifully. I would have liked it if the installer had autodetected which CD had the install media, but I was not that disappointed. I chose to install Libranet with dual boot support. Once the first stage was completed, I rebooted per instructions.
Installation – Stage 2
The second stage of the install begins in text (or console) mode and switches to GUI for the selection of packages. I could not begin to rave enough on how clean and simple the Libranet installation is. I know, I know, this is one area that Linux distributions have been focusing on for the last couple of years. Libranet is definitely a standout here.
The main objectives accomplished by the stage 2 installer are:
Everything went swell on this stage. The only issue that I experienced was relative to Automatic X-Windows Setup – the setup incorrectly detected the amount of RAM in my video card. I corrected and went right along.
Package selection is via GUI. I selected all packages except:
These packages were not appropriate to my configuration – a Desktop system of modest capability.
Every hardware detection was successful – video, sound, network, scsi, usb, etc. I skipped Printer setup, I wanted to use the admin tools to do this. CDR Setup was interesting in that I was asked if I wanted all of my IDE CD Drives to appear as SCSI (scsi emulation is required for burning cdroms). I said yes, and boy am I glad that I did.
Once the second stage was complete, I was presented with the Libranet login screen.
First Login
Woo hoo! The moment of truth. I logged into Libranet as the non-root user (always a smart approach) that I had created during the second stage install. Nice looking interface! NVidia popup and all, well that is the price of 3D, I suppose. So, the question that is burning in your mind has got to be – which Window Manager does Libranet default to? First, let me say that Libranet comes with lots of Window Managers – KDE, Gnome, IceWM, Flux Box, WM, TWM, etc. It defaults to IceWM. I was unfamiliar with IceWM, however, I thought that I would give it a shot. I figured that the Libranet folks must have a reason for picking it.
I went ahead and set up my Samsung ML-1450 network laser printer, this required that I select ML-6000, no big. The last little bit of configuration was raising the IGain on my soundcard, for some reason all Linuxes have low volume on my soundcard.
I then updated the AdminMenu, Libranet’s incredibly well organized administration interface.
I clicked the Security Updates button in the AdminMenu and got all the latest security hotfixes – 8MB, about a minute.
The last 2 things that I did on my initial login? I added my True Type Fonts (AdminMenu again) and selected a pkde2 theme, so I would know what those button thingies on the toolbars did.
Normal Use
Well I have spent the time since downloading the distribution, banging on my Libranet system. I have been unable to crash the system, no shock there. I have been unable to crash X, this is a little more impressive. One test that I like to perform on every new system that I setup, is to start every application in the main menus at once and observe the performance, or in the case of my other OS, non-performance of the system. Libranet maintained responsiveness during this test, quite a feat.
I used wine to run X-News:
http://xnews.newsguy.com
Wow, Windows apps on Linux! and I did not crash X with this one either.
I ran the applications and then I ran them some more and there were plenty to choose from. I played games, I ran compiles, and I ran every Internet application in the distribution (well, I think I did, like I said PLENTY to choose from).
Libranet comes with a slew of fine applications, my favorites are:
For a more complete list of applications, goto:
http://www.distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=Libranet
Screenshots are available here:
http://www.libranet.com/screenshots.html
I had a couple of questions that I could not answer myself, so I wrote to tech support and they were quick and courteous. Not only that, they answered the questions! See below for the Questions, with Answers.
The look of Libranet is comparable to Red Hat or Mandrake, True Type fonts and clean Anti-Aliasing give the interface a polished look that many distributions lack, out of the box. I was required to install the fonts (some licensing issue, surely), however, Adminmenu centralized the process and made it painless.
Libranet has something for everyone. Over the past few weeks my usage profile has morphed several times and Libranet has been there every step of the way. I started as a reviewer, bells and whistles galore… Next, I played Joe User, could I open that Microsoft PowerPoint presentation? Sure enough, OpenOffice to the rescue (ditto on Word and Excel), word to the wise, get OpenOffice 1.1 for even better interoperability. Next, critical developer – vi (or emacs) and gcc will take you a long way, but I sure wish there were some Visual Studio competitors freely available, KDevelop not withstanding. Komodo 2.5 from ActiveState works beautifully on Libranet, but Komodo is not that inexpensive. Finally, after all the work – I took on the game player role, rock on! I loaded up Quake III Arena, wow! Was I ever glad that my NVidia card was supported well. The responsiveness of the game was impressive. I tried 30 or so of the games that came with Libranet and although I liked them and they worked well, none were as polished as Arena. My windows version of Unreal worked quite well under wine, though, and it is as polished. Every game that I played worked as I expected, well. All in all, you can wile away as many hours playing games on Libranet as you like. It comes with a very large number of games, games for X, for Gnome and games for KDE.
In terms of overall user experience, Libranet is a blast – from start to finish. The one thing that I would change, if it was up to me, are the menus. The menus can be somewhat confusing. There appears to be some redundancy and overlap, for instance, the Games sub menu can be found in the main menu as well as several other sub menus. I would like to see the menus redone in such a way as to eliminate that redundancy.
Conclusion
Libranet 2.8.1 is a breath of fresh air. Amazingly easy to install, stable as a rock and easy to update. Their customer support was fast, knowledgeable and helpful. I would recommend this Debian based Linux distribution to anyone, novice or expert.
Questions with Answers
Q. IceWM is the default, how do I accelerate the mouse?
A. There is currently no graphical method of setting mouse acceleration in
IceWM, but you could add the command:
xset m 2 4 To: ~/.libranet/startup_programs
Where in the example above 2 is the acceleration, and 4 the threshold.
Q. How do I troubleshoot and or configure the time server client? Using adminmenu, I try to sync the time with the noaa server and get the error:
Fail: connect: Connection refused
A. The NOAA time server that Adminmenu used for time synchronization became inaccessible recently. We resolved this with an update to the Libranet Adminmenu.
You know I really hate reviews that do not give specs on the type of machine used. Specs are needed IMHO to give a reader a picture of the type of machine or parts that might be needed.
Irrelevent to the review here.
Eugina, good review, might someday try it when linux systems in general approach osx seemlessness (which gnome 2.4 was pretty good last time I tried it).
Actually the review is not by Eugenia, it is by Will Senn
I love Libranet. Especially the Adminmenu. It truly makes Libranet stand out, as well as easy to use.
What you’re paying for in Libranet (since it’s based on Debian that is free) is easy installation, adminmenu, and support. I’m glad that reviewer mentions this support – Libranet people provide answers to users’ questions. Strange, however, that they should say that there’s no GUI frontend for setting mouse acceleration in IceWM. I abandoned IceWM when XFce4 was released, but I recall that there are several graphical frontends to configure most aspects of IceWM. You can also do (as root) ‘apt-get install gxset’ and this installs gtk frontend for xset.
Time to update my 2.8.0
. I just ordered Libranet 2.8.1, along with Quake 3 (the metal box edition).
For all those who want to try Debian on the desktop: give Libranet a shot, you will like it!
I love Libranet , and i using it with big pleaser.
What version of Gnome does the clasic(Free) edition come with?
If is 2.4 I’d like to give it a try.
I love xnews! I can’t think of a better program for linux!
Is there a comparable news reader for linux?
All the ones I have tried just looked all blocky and not very nice looking!
I like PAN a lot, actually. Not especially pretty, but it’s extremely functional.
Sure,
3 different boxes:
a. Test Box 1
Intel PIII 800 – D815EEA with integrated sound, nic
512 MB Ram
Viper V770 w/32 MB SDRAM
Memorex 52x CDRW
Cendyne 10x DVD
USB Plustek Scanner
USB Tripplite 1000 UPS
Logitech Trackball
MS Natural Keyboard
b. Test Box 2
Dell Precision Workstation 340, integrated Radeon VE video, sound, nic
Intel PIV 2 Ghz
1 GB Ram
HP CDRW
Logitech Trackball
MS Natural Pro Keyboard
c. Test Box 3
Compaq Presario 1250 Notebook
builtin sound, modem
Gigafast EE101-AEX PCMCIA nic
NeoMagic 800×600 laptop display
My preferred is a.
Thanks,
Will
196 MB Ram
Lots of people doesn’t know that NVIDIA splash screen can be disabled.Deeeeeeeep inside the README file which comes withe the driver there is a section XF86config which has details about how to do it
I will paste the section regarding the splash screen
Option “NoLogo” “boolean”
Disable drawing of the NVIDIA logo splash screen at
X startup. Default: the logo is drawn.
The README file has other useful information.
ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-4496/README.txt
>For all those who want to try Debian on the
>desktop: give Libranet a shot, you will like it!
Or just download Debian for free…
No troll intended.
Debian is indeed ‘free’, Libranet supplies Adminmenu and an easy install as well as a large number of latest release software, whereas Debian is arguably more difficult to install and comes with some dated software. I don’t want to start a flame war or anything though
Everyone rush out and grab Debian, use jigdo!
Will
It’s because SuSE isn’t free as in speech, either – witness YAST.
The question then becomes, why use SuSE when I can use Fedora or Debian, which are free as in beer and speech and just as good? There’s not a whole lot of reason for people who care about freedom.
I don’t like SuSE’s proprietary tools and software because of the valid and legitamite “free”-ness issue. I’m vocal about it. I’m not unaware of that fact, either. I don’t need your arrogant “Take close care of this phenomenon next time, you’ll be surprised” as if I don’t pay attention to what I post already. Not everyone is an ignorant moron.
So, get bent. And have a nice day.
-Erwos
Well.. actually I can’t tell you why till I get to *really* understand the issue here. My question is: Why do you care about YAST not being free in the first place? Do you actually temper with sources and you have that deep, unfulfilled desire to tamper with YAST out of the gazillion lines of code that ship with SuSE? I don’t code myself and I couldn’t ever imagine a situation where it would bother me that YAST is not free and thus somehow hamper my usage of Linux. — I mean, what scenario is it exactly that causes such an outrage? 99,9% of the readers here use Linux as-is and will never really come to even bother about whether or not YAST is free as in speech… So what is really important after all in my view is that I can pass on SuSE to whom ever I want without being haressed by the BSA or some such organization.
This is a review of Libranet, a debian based distro.
There is no need to start ranting and raving about Suse here.
“So what is really important after all in my view is that I can pass on SuSE to whom ever I want without being haressed by the BSA or some such organization.”
Fair enough, but legally you can’t do that, either. See the relevant section of the Yast license (http://www.suse.de/en/private/support/licenses/yast.html):
—–
3. Dissemination
It is forbidden to reproduce or distribute data carriers which have been reproduced without authorisation for payment without the prior written consent of SUSE LINUX AG or SUSE LINUX. Distribution of the YaST programme, its sources, whether amended or unamended in full or in part thereof, and the works derived thereof for a charge require the prior written consent of SUSE LINUX AG.
All programmes derived from YaST, and all works derived thereof as a whole or parts thereof may only be disseminated with the amended sources and this licence in accordance with 2b). Making YaST or works derived thereof available free of charge together with SUSE Linux on FTP Servers and mailboxes is permitted if the licences on the software are observed.
—–
Distribution for a fee is completely prohibited, and in addition, distribution free of charge is only allowed from FTP servers and mailboxes. So no, you can’t give SuSE to your friends, only tell them how to download it for themselves. *Legally*, that is…
… identifying an issue can be quite an issue in it’s own right, isn’t it..?
My issue is not SuSE, my issue is why some people always jump on one distro but not on others for what is appearently the same behaviour when it comes to distribution. My guess is that people envy SuSE’s success…
It’s not the same if you get a US$70 product for free. You haven’t ponied up your own cash, have you? Actually paying for a product seriously affects how closely you review it and will also turn your mind to what you got for your money that you wouldn’t otherwise have got for free somewhere else.
It’s easy for the reviewer to say the money is “worth it” when he got the product at no cost. He didn’t have to choose between this product and another product or this product and say, shoes for the kids or groceries for the week.
OSNews is regularly reproached for the style of reviews on the site. I think Eugenia should seriously consider setting out some guidelines like these:
(1) reviewer got product for same price as regular person
(2) reviewer used product for at least six months (all the reviews otherwise end up being “how I installed”)
(3) reviewer must *focus* on what is different about a product vs. what is the same ie. support, documentation, extra tools, etc. Similarities can be briefly summarized instead.
(4) reviewer must give longterm usability review of the product over a wide range of circumstances. so many people hop from distro to distro week after week these reviews become pointless.
This issue is being kicked around for a long time. The most respected german computer magazine C’t did a pretty good once-over intro to current distros in their print edition recently and specifically pointed out once again that you *can* in fact copy the CDs around freely. For curiousity, I will contact SuSE directly now and will post the answer to the (official) forum here…
“The most respected german computer magazine C’t did a pretty good once-over intro to current distros in their print edition recently and specifically pointed out once again that you *can* in fact copy the CDs around freely.”
<shrug>
Whatever you say. Those willing to take the word of some unaffiliated German computer magazine over that of SuSE’s own legal department are free to do so. However, the Yast license (http://www.suse.de/en/private/support/licenses/yast.html) speaks for itself.
i am sure it is a fine distro, but since they have no FREE downloads of the ISO i will never know, as i am not about to send them money for a Linux distro that is too similar to most other distros out there, in the end i get 99.99% the same things as i get in either Debian, Knoppix, Mandrake, Redhat, Slackware, or dozens of other distros out there that offer free ISOs to download, go to http://www.distrowatch.com/ and take your pick…
They have a 100% money back guarantee. If you don’t like it, just ask for a refund.
“What version of Gnome does the clasic(Free) edition come with?
If is 2.4 I’d like to give it a try.”
Hehe, hardly. It was released on the 9th of September 2002, while Gnome 2.4 was released on September the 11th of *this* year.
Many desktop users find the free 2.7 edition useful as a more user-friendly alternative to Debian’s own installer (it features hardware detection, etc) after which they just dist-upgrade to the Debian branch of their choice, but that’s about it.
> Many desktop users find the free 2.7 edition
> useful as a more user-friendly alternative
> to Debian’s own installer (it features hardware
> detection, etc) after which they just dist-upgrade
> to the Debian branch of their choice, but that’s
> about it.
So Libranet is infact more of a easy-to-use debian installer that is worth ~50$
Well… learning to use the debian installer seems to be a good investment 😉
For the record,
I did not say that it was ‘worth’ it, I said – ‘There is definite value to be had in a distribution that costs. Libranet adds value.’ I stand by that statement. I have bought many of the distributions that I own and while the cost influenced the critical nature of my ‘review’ I like to think that I appreciated each distributions features for their usability much more than their relative cost. I paid nearly 2 times as much for my version of RedHat than I would have paid for Libranet, I was happy with the distribution. Also cost is relative, the $100 for Redhat was still a third the cost of windows. 70$ is a good deal for Libranet and I plan on buying it – precisely because of my review.
Cheapskate,
Not so, see tuxter’s reply above. The 2.7 Classic Edition is downloadable at http://libranet.com/download.html
Will
because libranet uses alot of stuff from the testing and unstable, it means installing from third party sources (like KDE3.1.4) is impossible.
so libranet doesn’t let users see the true goodness of the apt system.
unfortunately there is no easy way to set up a proper desktop system with debian stable. i’d advise people to either use redhat, mandrake or suse, be prepared for alot of headaches and install woody or wait for a year or so and install sarge.
Whoa.
Sit UBU sit.
Good dog.
Jim
Libraet 2.8 onwards is superb – brilliant review btw
I’ve tried dozens of distros in the quest for the ‘perfect Linux’ Libranet, bar a few minor niggles is that distro
Anyone thinking of trying pre – 2.8 versions though better beware. Everything that is right about 2.8+ is missing in earlier versions. 2.7 is a shambles, hardly picks up any hardware, looks terrible and is a pain generally.
I love the iceWM default desktop, which comes with handily placed configuration tools – very handy if you like your menus to scroll :o) I’m running an AMD 2600 with 512MB DDR, so I don’t exactly need to use iceWM, but I love it’s clean simple looks and functionality and the way the Libranet team have tweaked it, is much better than any other distro
As it said in another revue I read – it’s Debian that just works. Couldn’t agree more
An added bonus for me was the included Netscape 4.7
I can now play my favourite M$ java flavoured online game in Linux :o))
While your sentiment regarding reviewers who get free product, it is valuable for it to have been disclosed. IMHO, it shows class on the part of the reviewer to have disclosed that he received the product for free.
Now, in terms of waiting six months to publish a review … uhm … there will have been dozens of releases of major applications since the time of the release and then people will complain that the review is not up to date. I’ll have to disagree on people waiting.
Libranet 2.8.1 may indeed be a very good distro, but who exactly is willing to pay around $70 for the privilege. It offers little or nothing more than other Debian based distros such as Knoppix or Mepis. Both are “no-brainers” to install, both offer similar packages / applications, and more importantly both of these distros are absolutely ….. FREE! So I guess the 70 bucks must be for technical support, well if I need technical support using either of the mentioned distros all I need do is post a question on their user forums, and in the case of Mepis the question will usually be answered by the guy who developed the program. I’m sure Libranet is a fine program but I fail to see the attraction given the cost.
Libranet 2.8.1 may indeed be a very good distro, but who exactly is willing to pay around $70 for the privilege.
For existing users Libranet is $49.95 (CD-ROM) or $44.95. A good price compared to other distros.
It offers little or nothing more than other Debian based distros such as Knoppix or Mepis.
How do you know? The installation is better, Admintool is very nice, the support is great, the selection of packages is good.
You know, there are still people in this world that need to eat food to stay alive. Maybe that differs in your situation…
Most Libranet users don’t mind to pay the developers for a good product.
Test post ignore.
It is because I need to eat food that I choose not to use your distro, and why so sensitive, I’m sure there are many who are willing to pay for your work, …. sorry but I’m not.
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It is because I need to eat food that I choose not to use your distro, and why so sensitive, I’m sure there are many who are willing to pay for your work, …. sorry but I’m not.
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It is a matter of taste. I like Libranet, that’s why I bought it (2.8.0 and 2.8.1). Nobody condems you for choosing something else.
Except for using Libranet I have no affiliations with them
.
If there is no way to setup a proper desktop with debain unstable, why am I running nearly Gnome-2.4 from unstable with XFree86-4.3.0?
I’ve tried 3rd party debs, and it nearly always ended up trying to remove half my apps, so I stick with unstable, and use woody as my base (i.e networking, NIS, NFS etc…), whilst all my desktop is running unstable.
yes I agree it can be hard to get a perfectly working unstable desktop, it took me around a week, but it’s worth it, using discover, and cloop, I can make a compressed image of my system, and extract it onto most other computers and watch discover autodetect all the hardware, and using dcc in the XFree86Config-4 file, give me auto probing on monitor resolution (should they allow it).
Yes you can break things running unstable, recently I updated parts of gnome, it broke gnome-terminal, the following day, I updated gnome-terminal and working again.
And it rock solid, alot more stablier than redhat 9,but If you want an easy path then I would recommend Libranet any day.
I’ve been using debian now for around 7 months and would never go back to anything else, and yes I have purchased woody on DVD, as well..
Mark
I just purchased the 2.8.1 product. Eagerly awaiting its arrival.
It offers little or nothing more than other Debian based distros such as Knoppix or Mepis. Both are “no-brainers” to install, both offer similar packages / applications, and more importantly both of these distros are absolutely ….. FREE!
I have done the hard drive install of Knoppix 3.2 and despite taking the advertised precautions, I still get the odd menu showing up in German. No package selection ended up being something that I cared about. I realize I could “de-install” packages using aptitude or apt-get or some such, but I prefer to build up, rather than whittle down. The windows shell-shock about orphaned stuff being left behind is hard to shake.
So I guess the 70 bucks must be for technical support
Sadly (believe me, it tears me up :^) ), I don’t have a broadband connection to download isos or packages at will. An apt-get dist-upgrade on my Knoppix install would have taken 36 hours :O so there is something to be said for the packages being on CD. Tech-support is nice (I’m not exactly a newbie, but godhood is a ways off). Some of the value-added pieces look promising.
I’m sure Libranet is a fine program but I fail to see the attraction given the cost.
Fair enough.
Hey why are these people so angy, and what has Suse to to do with Libranet. A part from the fact that they are both Linux
Cool it chaps! its only A Os it’s not a life or death matter
OK, so I have laid donw the whole situation again to the publisher and I they have re-assured that you can in fact copy the CDs of SuSE as long as it is for free as in beer. In fact, upon having re-read the terms you copy/pasted, there ins’t anything contradicting in there. After all, if such a vocal magazine was to falsely advocate the possibility to copy the CDs over years, you would have heared a word from SuSE about that. The only sources who keep claiming the opposite are legal laymen like you.
So, feel free to copy them.
Naturally, you are expected to learn to speak German before you attempt to install Knoppix. No, seriously… to change the language in menus try this:
Click on the KDE Control Centre icon on the taskbar at the bottom of the screen (icon of a colour monitor with a card in front of it).
Within the Control Center, click on Personliche Einstellungen.
Click on Land und Sprache. Choose the locale and language of your choice.
Click on Andwenden at bottom of that window.
Close and restart the Control Center.
Click on Peripherals, then Keyboard, and choose your preferred keyboard layout (which will probably be U.S. English). Click OK and close the window.
(You may also right click on the german flag next to the time on the taskbar and select the bottom option with …)
You may also need to logout and log back in for the changes to take place.
And while you are waiting for your purchased Libranet CDs, you may like to browse Knoppix user forums:
http://www.knoppix.net/forum/
People there are happy to help you. :^)
I am a Debian fan with lots of insight on “The Debian Way.” Libranet makes Debian a joy to use *and to administrate* for novice and advanced users. It is worth the money IMO. If you do try it and don’t like it (as some have), you can request a full refund. That removes the financial risks enormously.
Compare to SUSE? Get out of here already!
Hardware detection is the best of the bunch. I have tried all the major and many of the minor Gnu/Linux distributions. Libranet shines with it’s detection routines. Libranet hackers also have this fantastic habit of *listening to their beta testers* prior to release.
Did you forget that you get Java, Flash, Realplayer, free and M$ fonts, updates, auto loggin to favorite desktop (if you wish), all with a click of a mouse. I’m only naming a few of the wiz-bang-neato-features that come with Libranet’s latest.
What you don’t get is easy tracking of Debian’s UNSTABLE tree. Users who are not prepared to get into the guts of the system should avoid attempting to track UNSTABLE and stick with Libranet’s own released software packages.
Core support from Libranet *and* Libranet’s forum of users. Some really odd issues do arise and it is nice to know you are in good company that is willing to help you hurdle the problems that might come up.
Opportunity: Hmmm, I better keep this secret since I want to make money too!
Debian *is* freely available via the net. Get it if you have time to tweak/repair/setup/tweak/tweak, but for those of us that *have a life worth living*, we are happy to pay for the freedom of choice!
As always, wishing you all well.
In response to:
Did you forget that you get Java, Flash, Realplayer, free and M$ fonts, updates, auto loggin to favorite desktop (if you wish), all with a click of a mouse.
Nope, but I didn’t have room on 2 pages to include ALL of the features (smile)…
To all the doubters and scoffers:
Try it you’ll like it.
It comes with a 30 day money back guarantee.
Thanks, Nob. I’ll take a look.
I recommend Knoppix to friends who want to give Linux a whirl. I still think that for the level of skill I’m at and some of the features I’d like to have and the position I’m currently in and the fact that I want to support this company, and so on, and so on, Libranet’s a good fit for me.
‘Course, I still have to get the silly thing installed, eh? :^)
Anticipating much joy!
Bob
I try them all if I can get them. I started out buying packages. I then started downloading them plus I bought a few discount cds. Libranet 2.0 was a blast but not a keeper. Libranet 2.7 was a bust. It didnt install. I have over 30 cds of linux distros. The only one that I continually returned to, is Slackware 8.1. Slackware 9.0, 9.1 are great packages except for the schizoid fonts. Knoppix also has the lousy fonts. (perhaps I don’t know how to handle them, but is it GTK on Kde that screws it up?) Anyway Slack 8.1 rocks. But my recommendation to any newbie is try KNOPPIX 3.3 cd, and when ready, install it to harddrive. It gives many of the advantages of Libranet with less hassle and less expense. You find out immediately if you have hardware issues. It doesnt take an hour… But $70 for Libranet that I probably wouldnt stay with, is not value for me. If I stayed with it, It might be. I do not resent the price, I mean ya gotta make a living. But ifn I don’t keep it, (experience sez I wouldn’t), It’s too high to only just try.