“Sun’s Java Desktop System joins Novell’s Ximian XD2 as a tailored GNOME desktop that’s aimed at cubicle workers in large enterprise settings, such as government offices and big educational institutions. In the future, Linux will be the desktop used by the most, and the least, computer-literate folks on the planet” says the shootout review at NewsForge.
Cubicleware: Sun’s JDS vs. Ximian XD2
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I.e. it reads: in future Linux will be as monopolistic on desktop as Windows is now.
That’s exactly what I hate so much about Linux, that when it finally replaces Windows, we won’t have a breakthrough… new set of problems and inconsistencies etc etc etc. Yes, it free, but so what.
Oh how I wish BeOS was really alive by now.
I bet both GNOME and KDE will have more market share than XD2 or JDS when all is said and done. XD2 and JDS are just GNOME with some added patches that may or may not improve functionality. But I haven’t used either yet, so we’ll see.
Its amusing to watch corporations adopt Linux for cost related reasons, but instead of adopting the OSS/cost effective part of Linux they just go to the nearest large vendor and get locked right back in to something expensive. Bravo, leaves a lot of room for the quick and efficient little guys to wipe the floor with all these large dinosaurs.
I looked into getting it and I understand a one time cost, but it seems that sun wants an annual fee for using the JDS, what gives?
I bet both GNOME and KDE will have more market share than XD2 or JDS…
well, you right -_-”
(since both JDS and XD2 use GNOME, how can they bigger than all GNOME?
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How exactly can Linux be a monopoly? Linux will never replace Windows just like OSX will never replace Windows…regardless of the actual arena. Linux will get the most play in the enterprises where there is already support for UNIX or Linux. I can’t believe I am even commenting on this…
And to say that Linux will be the desktop used by the most, and the least comp literate folks is just stupid. It isn’t about the OS, it is about applications…and Linux doesn’t have them. Ugh, I am so sick of the this same ole worthless commentary speculating about the OS of the future. Wake up people, the OS will and should be irrelevent.
I agree with you, you should be able to run any OS you want and the applications should all be platform independent.
Guys, that thing works. It really does – all things considered, I wouldn’t need windows at all, and I could use all the tools that exist on Linux.
and I think Sun have something going there. I admit, -I- was completely amazed, and I can’t even describe it to you. It was a dazzle, a razmataz of a strange kind. But very refreshing, very inspiring. I started to think of all the applications it could have.
I think this thing could make computing VERY interesting.
Don’t forget SUN. That is what their new Java Desktops are all about, it is a layer which runs on top of multiple platforms. Solaris is next in round. A pitty it don’t look / behave like OSX yet.
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By Kit (IP: —.raytheon.com) – Posted on 2004-02-12 20:21:35
“How exactly can Linux be a monopoly? Linux will never replace Windows just like OSX will never replace Windows…regardless of the actual arena. Linux will get the most play in the enterprises where there is already support for UNIX or Linux. I can’t believe I am even commenting on this…”
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Never is a strong word. I think Raytheon is very rich selling radars to Amazon vigilance (Brazil) and it have much money to pay M$ taxes…
Linux is becoming a success on desktops here in Brazil. Maybe USA will be the last to convert to linux.
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And to say that Linux will be the desktop used by the most, and the least comp literate folks is just stupid. It isn’t about the OS, it is about applications…and Linux doesn’t have them. Ugh, I am so sick of the this same ole worthless commentary speculating about the OS of the future. Wake up people, the OS will and should be irrelevent.
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If all the people think like you it will be not comercial applications for linux. Linux has now many free applications covering most of areas but there are other areas with no alternatives, but it is question of time and open mind of people…
“It isn’t about the OS, it is about applications…and Linux doesn’t have them.”
Which applications in particular are you referring to? Linux has plenty. It has three good open-source office suites (OpenOffice.org, Gnome-Office which includes AbiWord, Gnumeric and Evolution, and KOffice), several good browsers like Mozilla Firefox and Konqueror, file-sharing applications like dcgui-qt, Nicotine and Apollon, good CD/DVD burning programs like K3b, good IDEs like KDevelop, good HTML editors like Quanta Plus, various PDF viewers, Winamp-style MP3 players (XMMS, Zinf), iTunes-style MP3 players (Rhythmbox, JuK), instant messaging (Gaim, Kopete), movie players (MPlayer/Xine and GStreamer/aRts-based players), graphics (The Gimp, Sodipodi), newsreading (Pan), 3D modeling (Povray Modeler, Maya) and more. What applications, exactly, are you looking for?
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Apache
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Postfix,qmail,sendmail
openoffice
mozilla firefox
gimp
scribus
kde,gnome
but regardless of this there are some areas lacking like flash development, visual html editors, publishing software etc. when the market improves so will the apps.
Linux will never ever become a monopoly as long as other operating systems stay competitive not just with patents but real innovation.
ram
“but regardless of this there are some areas lacking like flash development, visual html editors, publishing software etc. when the market improves so will the apps.”Flash MX runs just fine under Wine, and has for quite some time, and I believe Dreamweaver MX does as well. Mozilla also includes a WYSIWYG “Composer” component that’s reasonably good. It looks like publishing may yet have a way to go, though.
>>> Its amusing to watch corporations adopt Linux for cost related reasons, but instead of adopting the OSS/cost effective part of Linux they just go to the nearest large vendor and get locked right back in to something expensive. <<<
Corporations couldnt care less what they were using as long as there is some company to support the software and keep things running smoothly. And dont overlook the costs in terms of lost productivity every time a virus or worm hits the windows machines.
So then it boils down to accountability, thus ruling out installing software that the users need to browse forums or to RTFM for solving their problems. Given all this, why should it surprise anyone that when a reputable company like Sun provides them with service and support, thats who the companies go with.