Following today’s TV presentation, IsComputerOn published the video (99 MB) of yellowTab’s CEO and CVO presenting Zeta (in German). The second video, which will focus on the recently announced ZintrO, will be posted later today. In the meantime, ZetaNews reports on the upcoming SP3 of Zeta 1.0.
I’m always amazed to see how Gobe Productive makes for amazing demo’s, where everyone ooh’s and aah’s, and then people go back to their sterile unresponive MS Office. It supports my pet theory that people are masochists, who enjoy inflicting pain onto themselves.
My, the Nimble v5 box is small. Its as big as my cable modem.
I like how YellowTab are starting to apply polish to Zeta. The new Personal Preferences artwork looks very Sexy. Now if only YellowTab would return the OBOS theme (the best of the bunch IMNSHO) instead of using the dull Menlo theme…
I have to agree. Gobe Productive was very responsive on his system.
The only thing I didn’t like about Bernds comments was regarding Windows OS. I would say “yes it is compatible with windows.” and leave by that. Step away from the Windows look, start bar, theme like windows etc.. My Mother as well as other family members in Germany have problems using windows.
They are newbies.
Be creative, offer wizzard like instructions. I think that would make migration a lot easier. Best example “Gobe Productive”. As soon as he opend the program it asked what he wanted to do. Bernd commented on that.
Copying windows, I don’t think is the solution. Lindows, Xandros look like windows and why would I switch to something that looks like it. I’m tired of the windows feeling. I don’t want to be reminded of Redmond.
I think I’ll stick with OS X. I love it.
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The most significant pass is, in my opinion, when Bernd laughs after been asked about the availability of “multimedia” authoring applications.
I don’t speak German. But I know Greek
Okay although I will not understand what they are saying, does the videos at least visually look good. Does it show some cool stuff?
It’s all Greek to me
Like John Blink above, I have no clue what they’re on about but it did look impressive…speed wise. Although that might have been partly because they were running it at a lower resolution than Windows was at the beginning.
I have only a partial knowledge of German.
The issue here is another one, IMHO.
How many people are going to pay more than, for instance, Suse Pro, for an operating system which they have no way of trying out in advance and no refund guarantee?
Well, let’s face it: there are NO multimedia authoring applications available for BeOS/Zeta. And don’t even consider PersonalStudio! it doesn’t even run properly under Zeta.
And I personally think that an OS that performs better with VLC than the native media player can hardly be named ‘MediaOS’.
It’s over and it’s time to admit it!
>> How many people are going to pay more than, for instance, Suse Pro, for an operating system which they have no way of trying out in advance and no refund guarantee? <<
I agree.
I’d like to see it priced at about $49.00US without GoBE Productive (sell that seperately), and without all the shareware/freeware bloat. Just a minimum of fully enabled, useful and working apps.
Sell a separate CD for $10.00 or so, with all that stuff on it.
I’d gladly pay $49US for something like BeOS that ran on modern hardware, and had some new features.
I don’t need GoBE (I already own it), and I don’t want all the bloated and useless freeware apps. I know where to get the ones I want, if I don’t already have them.
They can sell GoBE productive separately or in a bundle along with the BeOS Bible (Maybe they ought to contract for a Zeta Bible from the author?), like BeOS 5 was sold.
I’ll pay $49US for something I might shelve and never use. But, not over $100US.
For a new version of BeOS, under the condition that it supports at least as many hardware devces as BeOS 5.0, and that is not much slower than that.
At the moment, that doesn’t seem to be the case. In spite of the fact that yT seem to have added much more drivers, the whole thing doesn’t seem to work very well.
Is it just me, or is that the fastest desktop environment in the universe?
Just to indicate the speed to those that haven’t seen the video, an item in the menu would be selected and the program was up and running before the menu had time to disapear. I mean talk about blink and you’ll miss it. What speed of computer is that running on?
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Which drivers, if I may ask, besides the ones you can freely download from bebits ?
Are there any mirrors available?
I’d also like to see the price drop, at least into the same range as a basic Linux package. And I’m not fond of buying a Beta version and paying again (only $10 though) when the final release comes out. A LiveCD demo would be a great way of marketing the full version.
And I’d like to see the freeware apps on a seperate CD, not part of the main installer.
However, I think that Gobe Productive should be included in even the most basic Zeta package. Arranging the license deal with Gobe has been the biggest accomplishment of YellowTab so far. Without basic productivity tools, Zeta wouldn’t be worth anything…
Sorry I can’t comment on the movie, which is the topic. But at 99MB it would take forever to download, and I don’t speak German anyway…
-Bob
Talking about modern hardware …
Does it works with AMD 64 processor ?
Does it support P4 Hyperthreading ?
Does it works with more or equal 1GB of RAM ?
Can I use it with my laptop’s 32-bit PCMCIA cards?
Slashdot Effect proven again.
About the AMD64 support, yes, Zeta runs on it.
Sorry about the downtime guys, it’s just like h_ank said. ICO got hammered I’m trying to get it back up asap. But i had to remove the video though. Trying to get a mirror.
DaaT
The news item is a bit confusing to anyone not in the know, so here’s the clarification:
This is not “Service Pack 3” for “Zeta 1.0.” It is “Service Pack 3” for Zeta’s “Release Candidate 1” (or as I like to call it, beta). Note that RC1+SP3=RC2
I am a BeOS user – the way I see it, BeOS has become more of a hobbyist’s OS than a serious alternative to Windows/Linux that it once was. I still find quite useful at home. I run R5 on a AMD XP1800 system it’s a great OS to develop, listen to the music, browse the net etc. For me it is a very hassle free experience. I very much like the relative transparency of the OS – no bullshit “technologies” mystery settings and not-so-neccessary chrome. Very balaced, one of the last true, genuine home desktop systems, not just some dumbed down (or up) version of the software running in the server room.
When it’s totally gone, it’s gone, I’ll just move on, no regrets – but for the moment I am staying with it because it’s fun.
can’t hurt
http://marius.saklig.net/mirror/2004/zeta/zeta20040308.mpg
You mean, besides an entire new USB stack that actually works (even on my VIA chipset which does not work with Linux, for instance), supports USB2 and is far more complete than the USB stack Be did for BeOS? Ah, yes… And drivers for several devices that connect via USB. Scanners, for example.
-Bruno
NT was already ported to PPC. They abandoned that version some time ago. I don’t even think that it got to version 4.
As for Microsoft investing in yellowTAB… what are you *talking* about??? No such thing.
i hope they release free version of thier BeOS 5 based OS for starving, hungry poor and broke student like me so i can review them.
Just to clarify, there seems to be some confusion about all the extra freeware, extra bloat in Zeta. In fact, you can install or not install whatever you want to – and it’s very easy to do.
was just about to ask for a mirror link. thx.
Just watched the video.
I grew up German/English bilingually.
Bernd didn’t laugh about BeOS being a multimedia system or about anything regarding mm software. He explains that he laughed because BeOS was the original mm OS and the fact that (in his view) it didn’t have a lot of mm apps.
He demonstrates an USB 2.0 stick and claims that they measured throughputs of >380MB/s with USB (incl. ext. HDs), “faster than any other OS”.
I do want to buy Zeta, but I would like a straight answer as to what sources they have access to and, as a result, what future the OS has. There’s only so much you can do without kernel source …
Yes, BeOS is extremly fast. While MS Windows need faster and faster pc’s, BeOS can run FAST on an older PC, and FASTER on a new. Be Inc. didn’t think “Oh, what the heck, the computers become better and better these days”, which MS does.
Yes, you can get BeOS R5 for free. It’s called the Personal Edition, and you can download it from http://www.bebits.com Good luck
http://www.kaldience.com/misc/zeta/zeta20040308.mpg
http://marius.saklig.net/mirror/2004/zeta/zeta20040308.mpg
I wonder how many are impressed by the speed of Zeta in the video. Hey its BeOS it was speedy since the first version on a 2*66 PPC. Today they run it on a Athlon or Pentium 4 to show you how fast Zeta is.
I think the guys from Yellowtab are also impressed by the speed because they can’t program such a system. In the show i saw only the work from Be Inc.
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Can you disable the survey popup window once one replies no? It keeps popping up every time I view a page on OSNews.com, and it has become pretty annoying…
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i would recommend a browser which is able to block those ;o)
but psssssst it’s a secret
P.S: ok if you really don’t understand what I mean: firefox, opera, safari and a dozen of other browsers should solve this and many other problems.
I’ve just had my way with BeOS. I’ve been testing it last week for fun. Yes, it is very responsive and nice it is also quite easy to use; if it looked like that in the mid-90’s I have no clue how come Windows is now the standard. However, it needs some serious work to be able to cope with sub-standard hardware. I happen to own a cheap-assed ECS motherboard which BeOS did’t quite tolerate.
on the end thay said that they will meet next time to discover more about zeta. Did anyone recorded that?
I dug through the TV stations web site and here are 2 relevant pages :
http://www1.giga.de/storie_u4/0,3202,79425,00.html
http://dl1.giga.de:8080/dl2/main.php?refid=194
The latter will be offering downloads of the shows – at least on Friday. On Fridays they usually have downloads for the shows of the whole week.