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Fine. I’ll pull up the first link I see.
http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/ati_radeon_9800_pro_for_218.php
And I quote…
“9800 Pro (that means this is an ATi Radeon Card that will make your PC or Mac games extremely pretty) [256MB DDR, AGP, VGA TV Out, DVI] for $218 w/free shipping.”
Just because Apple doesn’t bundle it doesn’t mean it doesn’t work.
I’m not going to sit here and spend my day doing this.
a weblog talking about a hot deal and the maker of the blog uses mac in the page so you found with a search engine.
unfortunately the card mentioned is a visiontek xtasy 9800 pro 256mb card and it doesnt work in a mac.
http://www.visiontek.com/
see in middle it says: “System Requirements
• Pentium® 4/III/II/Celeron,™ AMD® k6/Athlon® or compatible with AGP 2X or AGP 2X/4X/8X universal slot
• AGP 2.0 socket or higher recommended
• 128MB of system memory
• Installation requires CD-ROM drive
• DVD playback requires DVD drive
• Windows® Me, Windows® 2000, Windows® XP”
“VISIONTEK XTASY 9800 PRO
Available in 128MB or 256MB
Experience the world’s fastest 3D gaming performance. Through a combination of incredible 3D rendering performance, sophisticated real-time visual effects, unsurpassed image quality and cutting-edge video features, the XTASY‘ 9800 Pro takes the PC entertainment experience to a totally new level.
At-a-glance
The VisionTek‚ XTASY™ 9800 Pro Series 3D graphics accelerator based on ATI‚ RADEON‘ 9800 Pro series technology is the most visually advanced 3D performer on the planet, delivering an immersive, real-time cinematic experience for the most demanding next-generation games.
• VPU Core Clock: 380MHz
• Memory Clock: 680MHz effective DDR for 128MB version; 700MHz effective DDR II for 256MB version
• Complete DirectX® 9.0 and OpenGL© support
• The industry’s only 8-pipeline graphics technology in its 2nd generation.
• Featuring CATALYST™ – ATI’s industry-leading software suite with frequently scheduled free updates providing additional features and performance over the product’s lifetime
Cinematic Rendering
Immerse yourself in the world’s fastest and most compelling game play, courtesy of the unprecedented speed and control of RADEON™ 9800 family of visual processors
• 128MB DDR or 256MB DDR II memory generates breath-taking frame rates
• 256-bit memory interface delivers the bandwidth for real time 3D graphics and barrier free performance
• 8-Megapixel pipeline architecture doubles the rendering power of other graphics processors
• Supports the AGP 8X standard, providing a high-speed link between the graphics board and the rest of the PC (2.0 GB/sec)
System Requirements
• Pentium® 4/III/II/Celeron,™ AMD® k6/Athlon® or compatible with AGP 2X or AGP 2X/4X/8X universal slot
• AGP 2.0 socket or higher recommended
• 128MB of system memory
• Installation requires CD-ROM drive
• DVD playback requires DVD drive
• Windows® Me, Windows® 2000, Windows® XP
Features at a Glance
• Eight parallel rendering pipeline
• Four parallel geometry engines
• AGP 8x support
• SMARTSHADER™ 2.1
• SMOOTHVISION™ 2.1
• HYPER Z™ III+
• TRUFORM™ 2.0
MPEG-2 decoding with motion compensation. iDCT and color space conversion. Adaptive de-interlacing and frame rate conversion, dual integrated display controller, dual integrated
10-bit per channel 400MHz DACs. Integrated 165MHz TMDS transmitter (DVI 1.0 compliant). Integrated TV Output support up to 1024×768 resolution. Optimized for Pentium® 4 SSE2 and AMD Athlon™ 3Dnow! PC 2002 compliant
This product comes with a lifetime warranty,
and toll-free tek-support.”
Once again, for the thousanth time, just because they don’t say ‘for Mac’ doesn’t mean it doesn’t work in a Mac. The DVD burner in my old G4 tower didn’t mention working with a Mac at all, but guess what…it works fine. The extra hard drives in my G5 didn’t say anything about Macs, and they work fine. The reason is that components go by a universal standard, and if you support that standard, your hardware will work. Most of the time they don’t mention Macs because their tech support doesn’t cover them. Just as Bellsouth told me I couldn’t get on broadband with a Mac. Yet here I am.
you can buy a $400 video card and try to use it in a mac
if it dont work and it wont you are out of luck
no one makes drivers for that card
drivers from apple are for apple bundled ati cards
drivers from ati are for ati mac edition cards and wont work with ati cards made for pcs (that is why ati has a separate page for ati mac cards and they use different cards in different boxes with different skus for more money too)
ati gpu based cards now made by third parties like visiontek have no support for macs cause they dont work on macs.
there are no reports of anyone taking a pc based ati radeon 9800 and getting it to work in a mac.
you are completely wrong and just make stuff up to suit your arguements.
you make mac users look bad.
The drivers from ATI for their ‘Mac’ cards are drivers enhanced for Macs. If you use a card without specific drivers you still get all the standard features that are universally supported (basic video card drivers with the OS). That’s how a standard works, in lamens terms. Same reason I can stick in a camera and not load the drivers for it. I won’t be able to control every function of the camera without the specific driver, but I will be able to use the camera and upload the pics to my computer without the driver, because it’s a universally support standard feature.
“there are no reports of anyone taking a pc based ati radeon 9800 and getting it to work in a mac.”
Tell you what, next tower I buy I’ll stick in a Radeon 9800 XT. I’ll even take pictures for you.
all devices would just work but maybe with lowered functionality in all computers
macs
windows
linux
we all could just buy what we want and plug it in.
wrong.
go look at apples own kb articles and note the thousands of entries for devices that worked on classic os that dont work on X.
shoot even apples own onboard scsi in os x supported macs didnt work.
you have shown yourself to be a complete neophyte.
“all devices would just work but maybe with lowered functionality in all computers
macs
windows
linux
we all could just buy what we want and plug it in.
wrong.”
No. Not all devices. Only devices with standards the the OS supports. And you are limited to features those standards allow. I never said all devices, you are trying to put words in my mouth.
“go look at apples own kb articles and note the thousands of entries for devices that worked on classic os that dont work on X.
shoot even apples own onboard scsi in os x supported macs didnt work.”
OS X dropped support for a lot of legacy hardware altogether, such as scsi, and even their own precursor to USB, ADB (Apple Desktop Bus). Those are not at all supported by the OS anymore, so even the standard compliant features do not work.
“there are no reports of anyone taking a pc based ati radeon 9800 and getting it to work in a mac”
I have managed to sucessfuly use the Radeon 9800 XT in my G4 Quicksilver. When attempting to install it i did discover others online who have sucessfully installed it as well. So there are documented cases that it works.
there is no one claiming such wild stuff
why arent mac boards
mac tech geeks
why isnt everyone shouting it from the rooftops that you can buy pc based video cards that cost substantially less than mac models and convert them for use in macs?
they arent shouting about how they can save money because it has been rarely doable and with only limited success
nvidia geforce 4 mx comes to mind as a model that had some limited success
http://xlr8yourmac.com/video.html a site dedicated to all things mac and tweaking has no mention of what you speak.
if it was so easy than some vendor would take stock ati and nvidia pc cards (with support that they mention and stand behind) and sell them as add-ons for mac and make a fortune.
you could not be any more wrong.
share some links
id love to see this documented.
“there is no one claiming such wild stuff”
If it’s been done more than a few times it not all that wild.
“why arent mac boards
mac tech geeks
why isnt everyone shouting it from the rooftops that you can buy pc based video cards that cost substantially less than mac models and convert them for use in macs?”
The geeks aren’t. Most Mac users don’t care for upgrading things themselves. There isn’t really a need to go over what Apple sells, Macs don’t rely on video cards nearly as much as PCs do…the software is designed better.
“they arent shouting about how they can save money because it has been rarely doable and with only limited success”
They aren’t shouting about it much at all. The only ones I’ve heard are PC users who don’t look past Apple’s site.
“http://xlr8yourmac.com/video.html a site dedicated to all things mac and tweaking has no mention of what you speak.”
That’s a very second rate site. After looking around a while I’ve notices they don’t mention half the tweaks I’ve done.
“if it was so easy than some vendor would take stock ati and nvidia pc cards (with support that they mention and stand behind) and sell them as add-ons for mac and make a fortune.”
Actually no they wouldn’t, if they did Apple would be down their throats about it. They are overly strict about what their resellers do.
“you could not be any more wrong.”
Really? You say that like you have lots of experience upgrading Macs, yet over the past few threads you have shown that you don’t.