Novell today announced its Connector for Microsoft Exchange Server will be integrated into Evolution 2.0 and made available as open source, beginning today with the current Connector 1.4. Evolution is Novell’s award-winning e-mail and workgroup client for Unix and is the most widely used collaboration suite on Linux. Elsewhere, the CrossOver Office 3.0 plugin was also released.
Ximian Connector Released Under the GPL; CrossOver 3.0 Released
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This means that the opensource Evolution email client will be able to access Exchange servers for everything Outlook can do.. MAPI email, calendaring, task sharing, shared folders, global address book etc..
This is going to be a *big* plus for those wanting to use Linux on the corporate desktop but tied to using an exsisting MS Exchange email infrastructure.
PLUS! Evolution is BETTER THAN outlook, because Microsoft has let Outlook pretty much get so stale it has mold on it… hell they JUST put colors in the calendaring.
Evolution is so much nicer a PIM than Outlook.
My guess is that since this is GPL’ed, most likely after a while you will see it integrated to all the other open source email programs as well.
Evolution screenshots here if you are curious:
http://www.novell.com/products/evolution/screenshots.html
http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/screenshots15.shtml
http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/screenshots14.shtml
Why oh why can’t I print a simple calender list….? GroupWise can print 20 different calendar views but I can’t print a list of appointments for the week using Evolution…
Very good news.
While I’m completely with you on the fact that the connector being GPLed is A Good Thing, it doesn’t in fact support MAPI connections, but works with Outlook Web Access, the web frontend to Exchange.
[Note to people who havn’t had to survive an Exchange shop: while OWA is a web frontend, Evolution integrates it seamlessly into the software, rather than just showing a browser window.]
Thank you thank you thank you!!!
First YaST and then Connector.
They’re doing a great job of winning the community over.
Great! Excellent move. This one buys more credit and credibility for nove.
Already downloaded, compiled, installed and working!!
really great!! :o)) i can’t believe it
actually worked completely out of the box
with an exchange2003 server! =)
source code here:
http://ftp.ximian.com/pub/source/evolution/ximian-connector-1.4.7.1…
PLUS! Evolution is BETTER THAN outlook, because Microsoft has let Outlook pretty much get so stale it has mold on it… hell they JUST put colors in the calendaring.
I like the new look of Outlook in Office 2003, the new layout is pretty nice. I’m guessing Evolution will clone it within a version or two.
This is a screenshot
http://www.nikush.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1973
The press release thing linked here says that many more apps are now running, but I can’t find a list of them otehr than the few in their release notes.
Anyone tried Cooledit/Adobe Audition? If that app works, I could officially retire Windows on one of my boxes.
Is it just me or “Novell Evolution” sounds really weird.
I get the feeling as if its like Adobe is releasing Photoshop for Linux and opensourcing it.
I guess its part of Ximian’s evolution.
Fine with me, as long as they don’t clone all the security holes.
I hope this gets built into KDE Kontact as a default eventually…. Also would like to see it in Mozilla.
Thank you Novell.
I’m getting unresolved dependencies(some sasl functions) when building on Debian SID :/
It’s pretty cool that I get full calendar support on Linux, while the rest of the staff have to use OWA.
theres still no hope for those of us that are stuck with exchange 5.5
this is actually quite wierd imho since theres a really large 5.5 install base out there and a really good way to get companies over to linux solutions is to let the users get used to evloution etc. & the ability to have select user run linux on the workstation inetegrated with the whole company infrastrucutre before the switch is made on the servers.
How would this benefit Novell’s bottom line? I don’t say Ximian Connector was a “crown jewel”, but it could have generated some nice extra revenue for Novell. This way, Novel gets nothing, except for the gratitude of a community that is known to turn back and banner quicker than you can say “Sun”.
Opensourcing StarOffice… that was a really brilliant idea… not.
Implementing MAPI within the Exchange Connector framework will probably be an early result of this release.
This buys credibility with the community. I understand that kde were working on similar functionality anyway (see http://www.kontact.org/groupwareservers.php). If Novell gives this away now, they get the FOSS community kudos, without really giving much away, given that they would have to do it anyway, once Kontact was up and running on exchange, the money in selling the software is minimal. The better money is in selling services around the software.
Matt
and besides, novell’s earning focus is on their exchange alternatives like groupwise and suse openexchange server. the ximian connector thing is just a way to help people move over to the linux desktop.
You can find a list of supported apps here: http://www.codeweavers.com/site/products/cxoffice/supported_apps/
Aparantly, Audition doesn’t work: http://www.codeweavers.com/site/compatibility/browse/cat?app_id=299…
Anyway, have you tried Ardour? How does it compare to Audition?
“Opensourcing StarOffice… that was a really brilliant idea… not”
i’m not so sure at all about that…
1. openoffice is/was the only chance for sun to establish a widespreaded userbase (for example, in the socalled “3rd world”) and the necessary publicity, thus increasing the market opportunity to position star office as a viable alternative to ms office, and therefore being able to sell it to their (big) customers (which are sun’s target – not the enduser). like jds, it is more of a teaser to sell their servers and other stuff anyway.
2. because of volunteers, it helps them to develop it faster an more on spot.
all that results in better
3. to hurt ms’ desktop monopoly.
so in my eyes, their strategy is pretty smart.
My how foolish you are. Do you honestly believe that Novell could ever make any real revenue on a free-software plugin which costed $30. Pray tell how many of these $30 connectors Novell would have top sell to turn a significant profit ? How many people use Evolution ? How many use Evolution in a Microsoft Exchange environment ? How many use Evolution in a Microsoft Exchange environment using the OWA(Outlook Web Access) ?
Now of course the GPL’ing of the Ximian Connector means that more people can use this technology-but we are not talking about a sufficiently large target audience to make $30 a pop into a significant revenue share for a company the like of Novell. The fact is Novell offers aq competing technology to the Microsoft Exchange server, GroupWise.
Novell has chosen Evolution as the email/ calender/ collaboration tool for it’s very own propietary GroupWise software. Allowing user’s who are currently in a Microsoft Exchange environment to use use Evolution for their needs also makes it easier to win some of them over to using GroupWise. Note, you cannot buy GroupWise for $30.
Prior to Sun open sourcing the codebase to the old version of Star Office, Star Office was an absolute no name for most people in the world. Star Office was originally developed by a 16(!) year old german who founded Star Division Gmbh. The old Star Division product was quite decent but it did not manage any real level of market penetration-nothing at all in contrast to what Open Office has today achieved.
Sun’s wise decision to purchase Star Office gave Sun a solid high gaulity office application for use on their existing IT infrastructure-ie. sun workstations, an office application which far exceeeded the software then currently available for such workstations. As it was the case that Star Office was concieved as a multi-platform application Sun had, with the purchase of Star Office, a unique application for heterogenous worgroup configurations.
Yet again how much profit could sun make off a $70 office application ? By itself the application was of very little value to Sun-but it being part of the IT solutions provided by Sun enabled Sun to enter new markets (Sun Java Desktop) which would not have happened without such applications. By open sourcing Star Office Sun gained “mindshare”. Their are now more open source hackers working on Open Office than Sun employees.
Moreover Open Office is a testing and development platform for Star Office. The fact is every distro of Linux offers Open Office now, most large distros shipping with it. Open Office is available for Linux, Solaris, Windows and Macintosh users. By the end of this year Open Office/Star Office, which by the way are not competing with each other-Star Office is more palatable for for-profit corporations which need/desire service contracts, will probably have 15% of the total market for Office applications world wide-outpacing all other office applications combined except for the monopoly, which is now being broken, of Microsft Office.
Although many in the open source world are quick to criticize Sun, Sun is valued in the open source world. They are not criticized for the quality things which they have given to the open source world. They are criticized for their self-contradictory, duplicitous rhetoric as regards Free Software. When their management goes public bad mouthing Linux and/or Free Software they get negative responses from the Free Software community.
But despite the rhetoric and flame wars Sun and the Free Software/open Source (FOSS) community are working together productively on a number of projects(Open Office, Gnome, Mozilla, etc.) A perpetual thorn in the relations between the FOSS community and Sun is that the FOSS community has been forced time and again to reimpliment standards which Sun created with little, belated help from Sun -look at PAM, NFS, and of course Java.
Although Sun praises itself for being “open” to open source they have a dodgy record at best-and their rhetoric is pure doublespeak. Virtually no one in the FOSS community is really anti-Sun, but an air of perpetual antagonism persists.
Hey, I ITPed it this morning, and have a test package up here: http://www.slug.org.au/~jdub/
The package name might change before it hits the Debian archive, but all the right bits are in this one to test. Let me know if you have any issues ([email protected]).
Maybe they have other projects that are more profitable? Maybe they even got some new ones :O
This buys credibility with the community. I understand that kde were working on similar functionality anyway (see http://www.kontact.org/groupwareservers.php). If Novell gives this away now, they get the FOSS community kudos, without really giving much away, given that they would have to do it anyway, once Kontact was up and running on exchange, the money in selling the software is minimal. The better money is in selling services around the software.
Your point of view on kontact is interesting, but I still maintain that “kredibility with the community” and “FOSS community kudos” is worth less than the dirt on your shoes.
@karl You opened your post by calling me names. Nice going. And then you continue saying that “OpenOffice enabled Sun to enter new markets – Sun Java Desktop”. That’s wrong, Sun didn’t need to opensource StarOffice to create their JDS . What Sun got from “The Community” was abuse and lies that Sun is in bed with Microsoft.
The opposite is true. Of course they are competing with each other. Not in all markets perhaps, but certainly in the largest part of potential customers, they are. Most people who use OpenOffice don’t know and couldn’t care less for the additional features that StarOffice brings.
If my memory serves me right, Sun acquired StarOffice from a Germany company at a very low price, and then open source later (after SO 5.2 release) – after 18 months of development it became OpenOffice.org 1.0.
Please take note that Sun was actually using OpenOffice.org to save its internal licensing cost of MS Office from Microsoft. Seems to me they needed a lot of Office doc processing and paying Microsoft doesn’t cut it in the long run.
Note, however, Sun now also takes service contract on OpenOffice.org (and of course StarOffice). Looks like further project development and support is now a revenue source to her.
As for Ximian Connector, I think it can be characterized as an embrace-and-extend strategy for Novell. If people can get used to Evolution, then Novell can introduce Exchange alternative products and services to their clients. After all, it is server that generates revenue and support contract for big business.
Novell is gaining credibility. And, I for one, is grateful for their open source support. It is a sign of confidence and strength to gain developers and hackers in the open source community. I am looking forward to see its success in the enterprise and the more exciting development with Mono and Linux Desktop.
Don’t underestimate the community mario. FOSS/OSS will win and it’s nothing you or anybody else can do to prevent it. Novell
already sees it and SUN will too. The best thing SUN can do in it’s software side is to get rid of Solaris and go the Linux way with full strength instead.
Any ETA on how long it’ll take before this one is forked a bunch of times?
Geee, another step to be hostile to companies who considers adopting something else than Windows… this is a spike to that now that this is lost as well to GPL hell
For those of you who think this is a bad move for Novel. Think that this is going to be a nice reason for companies to accept linux as desktops and workstations rather than windows. That means SUSE (Novel) is going to earn money by selling more Linux licenses and support. In the second round Novel might win them(companies) over to use Openexchange or Netwise instead of the not so stable and virusinfected Microsoft Exchange.
With the second round comes the final round which means Microsoft Active directory gone means the door is wide open for Novel Netware solutions.
If done correctly this will give Microsoft terrible headache.
This has been of the reasons SUSE has been selling crossover office with their products so far. There will be less need in doing that now.
when you consider the damage inflicted on companies by Microsoft Exchange, etc. This way Novell does two things – it offers companies an integrated package for email, etc, that integrates with Microsoft’s Own Packages; it takes the control of such a package out of the hands of any one company, thus giving Novell’s customers the assurance that it will be maintained and handled without the fear of lock-ins.
Novell should be commended for this – it’s put Microsoft under more pressure than it was under before, and it’s made Linux a much more attractive desktop alternative.
This is a very smart move for a Linux company. A Linux company HAS to have the good will of the community, as it is the nature of the open source marketing model. To Novell this connector was such small potatoes that giving it away caused them no hardship. The good will generated by this move is worth much more to them. As a plus this connector will come into wider use in the corporate landscape helping Linux to spread further which helps everybody including Novell. In the commercial Linux corporate culture it is important for companies to cooperate and help each other instead of using cutthroat competetive tactics. Each company then fills it’s own niche without seriously infringing on the others.
This doesn’t help Novell’s bottom line at all, this is a poor substitute for R&D whose goal is also to drum up long term business, but this will only give what few advantages Novell had purchased away to the worldwide “community” for nothing. Now there will quickly be several completely freeware clones of Evolution, fragmenting the market and ultimately stealing sales from Novell. If I was a Novell stockholder, I would be furious.
Now I can connect my Linux box to the Exchange Server.
For those of you who think this is a bad move for Novel. Think that this is going to be a nice reason for companies to accept linux as desktops and workstations rather than windows. That means SUSE (Novel) is going to earn money by selling more Linux licenses and support. In the second round Novel might win them(companies) over to use Openexchange or Netwise instead of the not so stable and virusinfected Microsoft Exchange.
Exactly the opposite is true: this way SUSE lost a piece of software that made it distinguished. This feature that could have been bundled with SUSE only is now available for all other distros, removing one compelling reason to buy SUSE Linux. With this argument, Novell’s move which looked not-too-smart now looks downright counterproductive.
“How would this benefit Novell’s bottom line?”
I have no idea except maybe great public relations with a community that it sees as a potential cash source.
“I don’t say Ximian Connector was a “crown jewel”, but it could have generated some nice extra revenue for Novell.”
It is a crown jewel for me as it will eliminate another barrier in a closed “other platform” shop.
“This way, Novel gets nothing….”
I am not sure about that. I use StarOffice on all my work, private business, and personal document needs.
Exactly the opposite is true: this way SUSE lost a piece of software that made it distinguished. This feature that could have been bundled with SUSE only is now available for all other distros, removing one compelling reason to buy SUSE Linux. With this argument, Novell’s move which looked not-too-smart now looks downright counterproductive.
Sure does. Only a couple of reasonable explanations, outside idiocy. 1 – a true open source evangelist has secretly taken over Novell and is gutting their corporate property, or 2 – their original plans of selling this stuff isn’t working as the “give it to me for free” crowd isn’t buying, leaving them with little other way of generating any press. Wonder what they’ll give away next, before the stockholders call a special session.
“I have no idea except maybe great public relations with a community that it sees as a potential cash source. ”
You mean, the community that is well known in the world of software for wanting everything free as in speech and as in beer and give nothing in return?
Novell is working to get great mindshare… As stated, this is required for any company selling Linux… Linux companies make their money primarily via support. Novell is aware of this, thus open sourcing products makes sense. They lose nothing, but they make Linux more appealing, they are #2 still in this space, thus they stand to gain…
Novell will make its money from Nterprise etc, the products they ALREADY offered before the Linux purchases… These are what seperate Novell from Red Hat currently, and these will NEVER be Open Sourced…
Netware wasn’t making any more money for the most part in the corporate market, they weren’t gaining users. Becoming a Linux company simply puts them back in peoples minds, and allow them to offer a complete package, rather then just servers…
Honestly, people that think this was a bad move are idiots, Novell is still in the business of Directory based offerings. If you believe moving into the Linux space is based on anything other then making headlines again, you are very nieve.
You mean the community that wrote all of the codebase for the Linux operating system? I think that is the one. The reason the open source community expects software for free is because it wrote most of the aforementioned free software. These corporations are selling software written by the community, so the community expects something in return be given back. If you don’t understand that, then you have got no business even commenting on the subject.
You seems to be interested in the stockmarket.
These figures are not exact,you may correct me if they are wrong.
Last 12 months:MS +0%
Novell +150%
Am I missing something,in that case please correct me.
The community sure does want things for free, if we’re not intending on using support offerings. Why insist on charging people that will find a way around it no matter what? Look at all the people pirating Windows as a good example of this…
The vast majority of programs that run on Linux were written by these same users, so I don’t see anything wrong with that…
Linux based companies DON’T MAKE MONEY FROM END USERS! The money is gained through enterprise contracts, end users are irrelivent to most of them… Enterprise’s WANT support contracts etc… I have never gotten support from Microsoft, however have purchased 2 or 3 different versions. This seems unfair to me, but maybe I’m just greedy…
Please, don’t ever say that you are not get something back from FOSS/OSS community.
You put in a few lines and are given millions of them back.
Novell has tanked ~30% in the last 3 months since they started giving their goose away…
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NOVL&t=3m&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=
Did no one notice the little thing sitting in the connector? Groupwise capability.
Novell are not looking to sell software but services and if they can make it so that others can use their backend services then they win.
As they have said, they are building their ‘stack’ with the SuSE and Ximian acquisitions to give them an end to end service. If others can plug into it that just increases the desirability of their product-scape.
sometimes a simple “thank you” is the right response…
thank you Novell!
Let’s keep in mind that this is very similar to Microsoft’s strategy to give away Internet Explorer in the early 1990’s. If you can away a product to get them hooked, you can keep the user and bring them into other products and services you offer. This seems to be a great thing for Linux.
I say it’ll be a bridge to get more users to Linux, but eventually those users will see the advantages and cost savings of a full OSS system and get rid of Microsoft entirely. It might be a stretch, but does make sense.
Connector has never been a SUSE alone app. Red Carpet, evolution and the rest of the Ximian apps have been and are available for several dists.
Open source connector means also that all the KDE developers(SUSE is one big KDE developer) would make sure Kontact would incorporate it as well, as well as other popular mail clients like thunderbird. This would make the linux acceptance even more.
So as I said before this will help Novel to get companies over to linux and since they will continue to own Ximian and Suse they will make sure to have the best solution so the customers would choose them.
And also big cash is not in the clients it is in the servers. Exchange clients are usually used in midrange to big businesses. No normal home user is benefitting from the connector being open sourced.
So again, this will be a big sell point when selling expensive licenses for openexchange or groupwise instead of 30$(or even cheaper) licenses for connector. Even if desktops are RedHat, Mandrake, java desktop or Gentoo, you still will be able to sell them Suse openExchange or Novel Groupwise + support.. This is where the money is.
Comparing this to Microsoft vendor lock-in is a bit off base, to say the least. Microsoft did not open the code to IE and allow their competition to alter it; they gave away the software and locked customers in.
Really.. about time, bad timing ? maybe better now than ever..
The open source and most companies lost a good hell of time and effort for this long wait…
Many companies lost allot of money for Microsoft products.
I think they are either trying to win the crowd, or have had some good money from microsoft for keeping it away for such a long time..
This article, announcing the upcoming Novell distro, nags the question: How will Novell deal with the long-term implications of a dual-distro strategy? Will the Novell distro be used mainly for enterprise and old NetWare shops, whereas the Suse one will eventually transition to focus more on consumers? Or will both continue offering both server and desktop solutions indefinitely? Will the Novell-branded distro be Gnome, the Suse KDE? Will the Suse distro start including Novell technologies such as iFolder, or will that be reserved for just the Novell distro?
You get the idea. How do they plan to smooth out this redundance long-term?
if this is possible to do (Like the java email client integration project for openoffice)…
open office with ximian supporting major user desktops will put msoffice out of business / lower prices very good)
Things are getting very exiting ..
Only a couple of reasonable explanations, outside idiocy. 1 – a true open source evangelist has secretly taken over Novell and is gutting their corporate property, or 2 – their original plans of selling this stuff isn’t working as the “give it to me for free” crowd isn’t buying, leaving them with little other way of generating any press. Wonder what they’ll give away next, before the stockholders call a special session.
I don’t think that is going to happen anytime soon considering Novell’s stock price has skyrocketed since they aquired Suse.
I believe I have tried cool edit on just plane WINE and it ran well… but that was a while ago.
You mean, the community that is well known in the world of software for wanting everything free as in speech and as in beer and give nothing in return?
You seem to overlook the fact that the community does give something in return. If it didn’t Free Software would have been dead 20 years ago. All the Free Software community asks for is development and the community has come through to the point that Microsoft is now directly competing with Linux.
“The press release thing linked here says that many more apps are now running, but I can’t find a list of them otehr than the few in their release notes.
Anyone tried Cooledit/Adobe Audition? If that app works, I could officially retire Windows on one of my boxes.”
I suggest you go to the Codeweavers site. There’s a compatibility application list over there which has been added on the site a while ago. It contains: applications known to work or work almost flawless but it also contains a huge database of other programs not officially supported though they do work. Includes tips & tricks to get them working. So you can see & ask which applications work too. PS: by buying CrossOver you support the WINE project too.
Looked under Adobe Audition, said it was untested. Money said the same thing, but the press release said it was working.
There was no entry for CoolEdit.
As for Ardor, it’s not even the same kind of app. Ardor is like Cubase. CoolEdit is like Audacity .. on steroids and then some
Apple, please add Groupwise/Exchange functionality to your mail/iCal/Addressbook aps. The source code is there, and while you are at it, see if you can get groupwise or openexchnage on Xserve.
I don’t think that is going to happen anytime soon considering Novell’s stock price has skyrocketed since they aquired Suse.
It went up when they bought Suse and Ximian, but it’s been going down ever since they started giving away what they bought for free. This move isn’t going to help, either. There’s simply nothing about this latest givaway that immediately helps their bottom line, which could use it.
First I must correct my figures.
Last 12 months:MS +0%
Novell +210%
Read the other comments,maybe you even learn something.
Has anybody compiled ximian-connector on fedora core 1 ??
i get this error:
: undefined reference to `sasl_version’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0xaa): In function `ldap_int_sasl_init’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_client_init’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0x157): In function `sb_sasl_setup’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_getprop’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0x4e4): In function `sb_sasl_read’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_decode’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0x54d): In function `sb_sasl_read’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_errstring’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0x714): In function `sb_sasl_write’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_encode’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0x74a): In function `sb_sasl_write’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_errstring’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0xa00): In function `ldap_int_sasl_open’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_client_new’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0xae7): In function `ldap_int_sasl_close’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_dispose’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0xbe5): In function `ldap_int_sasl_bind’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_setprop’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0xc4a): In function `ldap_int_sasl_bind’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_client_start’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0xd55): In function `ldap_int_sasl_bind’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_client_step’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0xde7): In function `ldap_int_sasl_bind’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_getprop’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0xe13): In function `ldap_int_sasl_bind’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_getprop’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0xec9): In function `ldap_int_sasl_bind’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_errdetail’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0xf03): In function `ldap_int_sasl_bind’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_errdetail’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0x1046): In function `ldap_int_sasl_bind’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_errdetail’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0x114a): In function `ldap_int_sasl_external’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_setprop’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0x1177): In function `ldap_int_sasl_external’:
: undefined reference to `sasl_setprop’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0x15b9): In function `.L280′:
: undefined reference to `sasl_getprop’
/usr/lib/libldap.a(cyrus.o)(.text+0x1677): In function `.L301′:
: undefined reference to `sasl_setprop’
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [actest] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/ximian-connector-1.4.7.1/lib’
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/ximian-connector-1.4.7.1′
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
Thanks
Ignacio
…said Nat Friedman, vice president of the desktop technologies group at Novell.
Who’s Nat this week?
Are you still around,I thought Eugenia banned you for starting flamewars with Novell.
Well,after all it’s just a hobby,who cares about titles.
Happy to hear that its been GPLed. However without a MAPI interface most people would still be handicapped IMO.
…banned you for starting flamewars with Novell.
Don’t recall flamewars with Novell. Don’t recall any flamewars at all.
Well,after all it’s just a hobby,who cares about titles.
Absolutely everyone. It is vitally important to know who is talking about what if you are going to consider doing any kind of business with Novell. My point is that you can never take anyone like this seriously.
Seriously, would you buy do business through a person who changed his job title from week to week, and where you just didn’t know where he fitted into the company you were doing business with? That may seem like a hobby to you, but it isn’t to anyone who may be looking at using Linux in a serious capacity on the desktop.
Novell seems to be making some good moves, seems to know what they are doing. Thanks Novell.
I get your points David but you are are coming on Nat and Miguel like you have been fighting since you were kids.
I don’t know if you are a lawyer,you are definitely talking like one.
I just did some research and it seems to me like they are going for a quick win. Novell have been really lucky in their linux crusades this far.
I’m pretty sure that Novell,with a little help from you,will sort out who is who in the near future.