Boy, there’s a lots of *BSD moves around OSNews.com nowdays. But that’s a good thing. Open Source solution should not be bounded to Linux only. I would love to see something that was here, ages ago. Many solutions (c64, Atari, Amstrad, Spectrum) but now with common API (GL, QT, GTK, and so on) so there will be no problem with switching. It’s all about variety.
Oh, Im downloading eBSD now. But I’ll try it at home, since I have no spare box at office. ๐
Well, Im going to ask thier developer about this. I renember that Pegasos was in thier ,,Platform” box. Now it’s gone. Since it’s an OS from *BSD family, there’s a big chance that Pegasos support was dropped after Theo’s mail about Pegasos. Too bad for Pegasos.
Is it based on OpenBSD? I suppose they had Pegasos support in that case, and could have keeped it, but understand if it’s not there longer since Theo and friends didn’t wanted to keep it.
The most obvious *BSD to have Pegasos support is netbsd.
The most obvious *BSD to have Pegasos support is netbsd.
Not to slam NetBSD, but you’ll find most of it’s ports are incomplete. Just a kernel and a bit of core user space. NetBSD makes big claims, and if you’re a programmer, sure you can finish up the port.
that said it supposedly runs great on Alpha, VAX, ultrasparc and several others.
I still think NetBSD has complete support for enough platforms. I have used it on i386 and m68k without problems, and I know someone who said it worked fine too on the sparc, and supposedly it works fine on at least UltraSparc, Alpha, AMD-64, PowerPC (Mac and IBM) and VAX too.
But from what BSD is eBSD forked? I can’t find it anywhere on the webpage.
Btw. it’s = it is, its = from it.
Btw2. On my Powermac I use Linux though, because when you boot with OpenFirmware the video card can’t be accessed ๐ but Linux can also be booted with BootX.
Not to slam NetBSD, but you’ll find most of it’s ports are incomplete. Just a kernel and a bit of core user space. NetBSD makes big claims, and if you’re a programmer, sure you can finish up the port.
I believe the point of porting NetBSD to all those different platforms is actually just to make sure the code stays clean. They want to keep a clean seperation between platform dependent and independent code. By constantly porting their software they can make sure that their code contains no presumptions about the hardware such as endian-ness. So I’m guessing it would be a dream for anyone who needed to mess around in the kernel on a regular basis.
Phil:
Close, but not quite. In the beginning there was 386BSD and from that came NetBSD and FreeBSD. Theo de Raadt then (split|got kicked out) from NetBSD which he help found to form OpenBSD.
And BTW PicoBSD looks dead, as does ClosedBSD. But that is not a troll since look how many Linux disstros have gone poof!
It may seem usless to you… but this “fragmentation” is quite healthy. It shows that people are using the code to suite there own purposes.
I enjoy the “fragmentation” of Linux. Why would I want to install a full Fedora/SuSe/Mandrake distrobution on a firewall when I can find a Linux or BSD distro that is tailored for the task?
I constantly hear that Linux is too fragmented. Linux is not fragmented. Linux is a kernel. You get it from one place (kernel.org). It’s the distros that are widely varied and prolific.
Pick on that does what you need it to. That is the beauty of it. Choice is a good thing.
Well Hagge, the packages available for Debian are not all that old for your typical desktop user (90% of whom are on Experimental/Unstable). e.g. Mozilla 0.9.1 is already available for those who want it. Debian packages are old only for those who run servers or who have no access to broadband and hence cannot harness the power of ‘apt-get update && apt-get upgrade’.
Boy, there’s a lots of *BSD moves around OSNews.com nowdays. But that’s a good thing. Open Source solution should not be bounded to Linux only. I would love to see something that was here, ages ago. Many solutions (c64, Atari, Amstrad, Spectrum) but now with common API (GL, QT, GTK, and so on) so there will be no problem with switching. It’s all about variety.
Oh, Im downloading eBSD now. But I’ll try it at home, since I have no spare box at office. ๐
ISO (Full OS)
Taipei, Taiwan(FTP): ftp://ekkobsd.csie.ntu.edu.tw/pub/ekkobsd/current/ISO
Amsterdam-1(FTP): ftp://ebsd.bsdfreaks.nl/current/ISO
Amsterdam-2(HTTP): http://high5.net/mirrors/ekkobsd.org/ISO
USA-1(FTP): ftp://ftp.webtrek.com/pub/mirrors/ekkobsd/current/ISO/
main site removed for obvious reason
is the pegasos platform supported in this release?
i hope so
Well, Im going to ask thier developer about this. I renember that Pegasos was in thier ,,Platform” box. Now it’s gone. Since it’s an OS from *BSD family, there’s a big chance that Pegasos support was dropped after Theo’s mail about Pegasos. Too bad for Pegasos.
Is it based on OpenBSD? I suppose they had Pegasos support in that case, and could have keeped it, but understand if it’s not there longer since Theo and friends didn’t wanted to keep it.
The most obvious *BSD to have Pegasos support is netbsd.
,, since Theo and friends didn’t wanted to keep it.”
That’s my guess, too. I’ve e-mailed Rick from eBSD project about that matter. Hope he’ll ansfer my e-mail.
The most obvious *BSD to have Pegasos support is netbsd.
Not to slam NetBSD, but you’ll find most of it’s ports are incomplete. Just a kernel and a bit of core user space. NetBSD makes big claims, and if you’re a programmer, sure you can finish up the port.
that said it supposedly runs great on Alpha, VAX, ultrasparc and several others.
I still think NetBSD has complete support for enough platforms. I have used it on i386 and m68k without problems, and I know someone who said it worked fine too on the sparc, and supposedly it works fine on at least UltraSparc, Alpha, AMD-64, PowerPC (Mac and IBM) and VAX too.
But from what BSD is eBSD forked? I can’t find it anywhere on the webpage.
Btw. it’s = it is, its = from it.
Btw2. On my Powermac I use Linux though, because when you boot with OpenFirmware the video card can’t be accessed ๐ but Linux can also be booted with BootX.
Could some explain where all these BSDs come from? As far as I can work out, from the “start,” when there were FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD:
. FreeBSD 3 forked to PicoBSD, which aims for small size.
. FreeBSD 4 forked to DragonFly BSD which disagrees with FreeBSD 5 architecture on SMP etc.
. SilverOS is a packaged version of DragonFly BSD?
. HawkinsOS is a packaged version of some FreeBSD release
. ekkoBSD is a fork of something, FreeBSD 4 again?
ekkoBSD seems to be a fork from OpenBSD
the unix timeline:
http://www.levenez.com/unix/
Not to slam NetBSD, but you’ll find most of it’s ports are incomplete. Just a kernel and a bit of core user space. NetBSD makes big claims, and if you’re a programmer, sure you can finish up the port.
I believe the point of porting NetBSD to all those different platforms is actually just to make sure the code stays clean. They want to keep a clean seperation between platform dependent and independent code. By constantly porting their software they can make sure that their code contains no presumptions about the hardware such as endian-ness. So I’m guessing it would be a dream for anyone who needed to mess around in the kernel on a regular basis.
Phil:
Close, but not quite. In the beginning there was 386BSD and from that came NetBSD and FreeBSD. Theo de Raadt then (split|got kicked out) from NetBSD which he help found to form OpenBSD.
And BTW PicoBSD looks dead, as does ClosedBSD. But that is not a troll since look how many Linux disstros have gone poof!
wow, lets emulate the uselessness of linux fragmentation.
It may seem usless to you… but this “fragmentation” is quite healthy. It shows that people are using the code to suite there own purposes.
I enjoy the “fragmentation” of Linux. Why would I want to install a full Fedora/SuSe/Mandrake distrobution on a firewall when I can find a Linux or BSD distro that is tailored for the task?
I constantly hear that Linux is too fragmented. Linux is not fragmented. Linux is a kernel. You get it from one place (kernel.org). It’s the distros that are widely varied and prolific.
Pick on that does what you need it to. That is the beauty of it. Choice is a good thing.
“Pick on that does what you need it to. That is the beauty of it. Choice is a good thing.”
Never found one so I keep on using the BSDs ;D
(redhat, mandrake, suse = rpm)
(debian = old)
(gentoo = why not get the real stuff instead)
Dunno about slackware, might be usable.
Don’t answer this trolling, I’m just tired. Good night
Well Hagge, the packages available for Debian are not all that old for your typical desktop user (90% of whom are on Experimental/Unstable). e.g. Mozilla 0.9.1 is already available for those who want it. Debian packages are old only for those who run servers or who have no access to broadband and hence cannot harness the power of ‘apt-get update && apt-get upgrade’.