An e-mail sent to MacMinute by Microsoft notes that: “As you may know, Virtual PC 7 ships with Windows XP both in a box by itself as well as in the Office 2004 for Mac Professional Edition. We are waiting for the release of Windows XP SP2 in order to offer the most recent, most secure version of Windows XP to our Virtual PC for Mac customers.”
Virtual PC 7 expected in October
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and linux ?
Has Windows XP always shipped with VPC? Now I guess you’re gonna have no choice but to buy XP along with VPC?
Is more like it.
You’d think that they would offer an OS-less version, but I don’t think they do that anymore.
“Virtual PC 7 with Windows 2000 and the Standalone and Upgrade versions will be available a few months after this debut”
Looks like it will be available without an OS, you’ll just have to wait a bit longer.
Virtual PC ships with Windows XP, not Windows XP ships with Virtual PC. Slight difference there 🙂
There were 3 versions of Virtual PC 6, the standalone VPC, VPC with Windows XP Home, and VPC with Windows XP Pro.
G5 owners will finally be able to run Windows.
There were 3 versions of Virtual PC 6, the standalone VPC, VPC with Windows XP Home, and VPC with Windows XP Pro.
Well, that’s what I mean … it doesn’t look like there will be a ‘Standard’ version this time?
also came with Windows 2000. I don’t know if Microsoft changed that once they bought Connectix, but it may have even come w/ 98 or ME as an option. (don’t remember… too long ago.)
“G5 owners will finally be able to run Windows.”
WinTel from OpenOSX has been out on running great on G5s for a loooong time now.
…Faster than PC users
I wish it worked like that with emulation, but it don’t!
WinTel is merely a pretty interface to bochs. So if you want to run ‘doze slower than a 386, have at it. Though I wouldn’t support OpenOSX, as they have a habit of not adequately crediting the community.
I was under the impression that VPC plugged into your computers hardware (eg. like a hardware simulator/translator from ca. Mac to Windows). You could then use any x86 OS you should need (other than Windows 3.x). So all one has to do is load up their version of Windows if they already own one. Or, buy the VPC with the OS available from MS.
Please correct this if it is wrong but do it with some facts and not guesses.
Much appreciated
Yeah, it pretty much runs any x86 OS. I’ve used it under XP to run debian, BeOS, and a custom kernel I was playing with(wrote from scratch).
I purchased the standalone version of VP 6 which includes pc DOS. ($129) With this version, you supply your own install disk – I’ve installed both Win2k and Red Hat Linux 7.3. In both cases, it creates a “Virtual Hard Drive Document” – a somewhat misleading name IMO which contains your entire install and any files you may have on a particular virtual OS. My Win2k “document” is at 2.8 gigs. I use it primarily for web development (compatibility checking) Rhino 3D – an app not available on the Mac – the performance on my 1.25 Ghz Aluminum Power Book is actually quite decent. As a high-end 3D app, Rhino is unique in that it doesn’t require much in terms of hardware horsepower – I’d never try Maya this way – then again, I don’t have to as it is available on OS X
VPC tries to create an exact replica of the x86 hardware – it alllows you to run any x86 (including Win3.x) OS you can think of.
I wish it ran X86 Darwin!
Yeah VPC supposedly emulates a Pentium II processor which means that no matter how fast the host system is, the guest OS has to run in a PII 2-400Mhz Environment. So as they say, RAM RAM RAM. RAM it up. It eases the pain. I know from experience.
It does run x86 Darwin. Check this guy’s page out:
http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/vpc/
63 OS’s including Darwin on a PowerBook 17.
Someone w/ a G5 should try this.
-Run PPC Linux as the base OS
-In PPC Linux use Mac on Linux to run MacOS X
-Startup Classic support in MacOS X
-In MacOS X Use Virtual PC for Mac to run x86 Linux
-In x86 Linux Use VMware for Linux to run Windows XP/2000
-In XP/2000 use Virtual PC or VMware for Windows to run whatever
I wonder how a G5 with loads of memory would handle that. You would have the best of everything at least.
I just hope to God it’s fast. Not a BS MS “upgrade” but a real one like the latest version of Office for the Mac.
I have a dual 2Ghz G5 with 2GB RAM. Maybe I’ll give that a go
..in Windows use PearPC to run OSX 🙂
I wonder if you could then just unplug the hardware and leave all the Operating systems running in an endless loop in mid-air
G5 owners will finally be able to run Windows.
This is exactly what i was going to get a G5 for. Excellent!
Honestly though, don’t buy Microsoft products, don’t pirate Microsoft products.
btw has anyone tried qemu with a PPC host? I know the benchmarks, but does it also feel much faster than bochs?
The link to the email in the Eugenia’s article tells you that there will be five versions of Virtual PC that will be available (not including the version bundled with Office 2004). They are: Virtual PC 7 with XP Home, Virtual PC 7 with XP Pro, Virtual PC 7 with Windows 2000, Virtual PC 7 Standalone and Virtual PC 7 Upgrade. Standalone and Upgrade versions are Bring Your Own OS solution. This is the same product line up that MS currently has for VPC. Connectix used to have VPC versions with 98SE, ME and PC-DOS 2000 before MS bought VPC off them.
It makes no sense to me why we have to wait “a few months” for the upgrade and standalone versions. Those should be shipable almost immediately after the release of VPC 7 with XP. I can sort of see why this may be an issue with Windows 2000 version ship date since the rumors are that some of the security fixes in SP2 will be backported to 2000 after SP2 ships. But the upgrade and standalone versions are (BYOOS) so it’s owners reponsibilty to patch the darn OS he installs on it.
I for one am waiting for a OS X version of mac on linux.
Having virtual machines around in OS X would be a whole lot of fun,and very useful….has anyone any news?
Same old excuses from Microsoft. I sincerely doubt this reason. There’s no beta in sight either.
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does that mean that even with CPU cycles to spare on G5 you performance won’t improve? Is there a hack to improve it?
And how well does it work with games? Iknow it won’t get top performance but as long as I could get Civ 3 up and going I’d be a happy camper.
You do realise that Civ 3 has been available on Mac OS X for months now, right? It would a lot simpler, faster and cheaper to buy the Mac natively translated version.
If you weren’t here is the link to Mac publisher.
http://www.macsoftgames.com/products/civ3goty/MacSoft-Civ3-page.htm…
I’ve heard that virtualpc 7 will allow the mac to play games designed for windows very sufficently as if you had just a pc itself???? Is this true??? does anyone know?? if you do reply plz.